AV Linux MX Edition 21.1 and MXDE 21.1 released!

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Re: AV Linux MX Edition 21.1 and MXDE 21.1 released!

#41 Post by operadude »

Took a look at the gpg man pages, and yeah, it will take quite a bit of study!
Looking for a good "crash course" on the subject. Taking recommendations...
To clarify my dilemma, this is what I see on https://bandshed.net/gpg/0xDF1084F762F14A43.asc:

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-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

mQINBF/F1fMBEACvZUNV6Stj0JRVsOt7xptI8rnbzudWUEg1+sqx/0q5rXUrooeg
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6tU4Z3KEs+fu47Qjmua9VQ==
=3a9y
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Not sure what to do with that...
Please advise,
Thanks! ;)

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Re: AV Linux MX Edition 21.1 and MXDE 21.1 released!

#42 Post by AVLinux »

Hi,

This command from the AVL webpage should retrieve the key and process it for you:

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gpg --keyserver hkps://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0xDF1084F762F14A43
Then you will want to have the downloaded ISO and sig files in the same directory and run this command:

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gpg --verify AV_Linux_MX_Edition-21.1_ahs_x64.iso.sig  AV_Linux_MX_Edition-21.1_ahs_x64.iso

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Re: AV Linux MX Edition 21.1 and MXDE 21.1 released!

#43 Post by operadude »

Thanks, @AVLinux !
I am looking for the keys for the MXDE-21.1_386 version.
Tried with commands you listed:
AVLinux wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:49 am

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gpg --keyserver hkps://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0xDF1084F762F14A43
Then you will want to have the downloaded ISO and sig files in the same directory and run this command:

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gpg --verify AV_Linux_MX_Edition-21.1_ahs_x64.iso.sig  AV_Linux_MX_Edition-21.1_ahs_x64.iso
but, this is what I got (again, for the MXDE-21.1_386 version:

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opera-dude@GA-H270-HD3:/media/opera-dude/Seagate Expansion Drive/Documents/Computer/OS/Linux Distros/MX Linux/MXDE_21.1_2022_April
$ gpg --keyserver hkps://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0xDF1084F762F14A43
gpg: key DF1084F762F14A43: public key "AVL ISO signing key <info@bandshed.net>" imported
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:               imported: 1
opera-dude@GA-H270-HD3:/media/opera-dude/Seagate Expansion Drive/Documents/Computer/OS/Linux Distros/MX Linux/MXDE_21.1_2022_April
$ gpgv --keyring trustedkeys.gpg  MXDE-21.1_386.iso.sig MXDE-21.1_386.iso
gpgv: Signature made Mon 18 Apr 2022 12:52:26 AM IDT
gpgv:                using RSA key 0E76DCEC4CA96B40BD2F3040DF1084F762F14A43
gpgv: Can't check signature: No public key
Is there a different key for the MXDE-21.1_386 version?
Wait...
I see the issue now, and it's been resolved!
So, yeah, got the keys, as you showed above:
gpg --keyserver hkps://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0xDF1084F762F14A43
But, where I went wrong was to use this:
$ gpgv --keyring trustedkeys.gpg MXDE-21.1_386.iso.sig MXDE-21.1_386.iso

when I should have been using your command:
gpg --verify MXDE-21.1_386.iso.sig MXDE-21.1_386.iso
Now, it all looks good! Here are my results from following your commands:

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$ gpg --verify MXDE-21.1_386.iso.sig MXDE-21.1_386.iso
gpg: Signature made Mon 18 Apr 2022 12:52:26 AM IDT
gpg:                using RSA key 0E76DCEC4CA96B40BD2F3040DF1084F762F14A43
gpg: Good signature from "AVL ISO signing key <info@bandshed.net>" [unknown]
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: 0E76 DCEC 4CA9 6B40 BD2F  3040 DF10 84F7 62F1 4A43
Please let me know if I should be concerned about that "WARNING". I don't think so, as the MX Wiki suggests.

Thanks for your help, and looking forward to trying out your Respin on some pretty old hardware!
:number1:

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Re: AV Linux MX Edition 21.1 and MXDE 21.1 released!

#44 Post by AVLinux »

Hi, Oops sorry I though the original post was about AVL...

Glad you got it sorted and yes the Warning can be safely ignored in this case. If you feel the issue is solved please click the little 'Accept this answer' check mark at the top right corner of the forum post form to mark it as 'Solved'.

Thanks for your interest in MXDE, for future reference it will probably be morphing from Openbox/LXDE to Enlightenment Desktop Environment in it's next release.. but in any case i LOVE to keep old hardware productive! I hope it works well for you

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Re: AV Linux MX Edition 21.1 and MXDE 21.1 released!

#45 Post by operadude »

@AVLinux :happy:
Since I wasn't the OP, from what I can tell, there's nothing for me to check as "Solved", but you have certainly solved my problem!
I'll keep an eye out for your future releases.
Yeah...I can't stand to see old hardware in the dustbin.
I try to salvage/rescue as much as one poor old chap can.
Thanks again for your help and Hard Work!
Will be trying it out this evening.
:popcorn:

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Re: AV Linux MX Edition 21.1 and MXDE 21.1 released!

#46 Post by fredd »

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:27 am It's normal (that resoution), as aforementioned it's a temporary solution that makes it boot "without" loading the real drivers.

Since it's easy to make typos when manually typing, also it may be difficult to type them all:

Just boot once more with nomodeset, then copy-paste the whole ( ..si...cik..) (with a space preceding) into "Kernel Parameters" box in "MX Boot Options" (from menu), Apply. (Now it's permanent)

Then, next boot if there's still an issue, just do the reverse: reboot again and press E on Grub : delete them , type nomodeset , hit F10 to go on boot, finally you can remove them from MXBO ..
The problem is when I boot with nomodeset, I can't manage to see the apply button of the mx boot box so I can't validate the changes. I have downloaded a mac qwerty layout pic to be more efficient in grub editing. Will try it, but I'm not very confident. The resolution was really fine after grub but the login screen never showed.

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Re: AV Linux MX Edition 21.1 and MXDE 21.1 released!

#47 Post by fredd »

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:57 am In the meantime: It's always best to see the QSI for us: At least when booted with nomodeset : "Quick System Info" from menu please. Just directly paste it into your post, no need to manually copy.

If still not: "MX Package Installer" from menu, install antiX 4.9 (or 4.19) kernel from Popular Apps tab. Next boot you'll see them in "Advanced Options" on Grub. Boot with them (just directly boot, without nomodeset) and see ...

(... maybe the liquorix kernel is the culprit).
will try this a s well if first solution doesn't work.

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Re: AV Linux MX Edition 21.1 and MXDE 21.1 released!

#48 Post by Huckleberry Finn »

... Or if you like only, you can simply try to boot MX 21 live usb.. If that boots, then it's the kernel. (That happened before, though AVL is based on MX, some devices dislike liquorix kernels like my both HPs :) )

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Re: AV Linux MX Edition 21.1 and MXDE 21.1 released!

#49 Post by AVLinux »

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:53 pm ... Or if you like only, you can simply try to boot MX 21 live usb.. If that boots, then it's the kernel. (That happened before, though AVL is based on MX, some devices dislike liquorix kernels like my both HPs :) )
That is VERY interesting... in another (Enlightenment) build I'm working on I have reverted to the Liquorix 5.15 from 5.16, would it be possible for you to see if the Liquorix 5.15 Kernel in MX Stable Repo also causes problems with your HP's?

That is very concerning, I really need the performance features of Liquorix but if we had 'low-latency' preempted Kernels in MX rather than the default server preempt Debian kernels that would close the performance gap considerably and offer a solid alternative in cases where Liquorix fails..

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Re: AV Linux MX Edition 21.1 and MXDE 21.1 released!

#50 Post by Huckleberry Finn »

Good News : It's at least bootable with this one: HP Pavilion dv6

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$ uname -a
Linux HP 5.15.0-12.2-liquorix-amd64 #1 ZEN SMP PREEMPT liquorix 5.15-15~mx21+1 (2022-01-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux
(From "Test Repo" in the meantime :) .. And, though this is not for it's liquorix but there's a known suspend-wakeup issue with these kernels and (these) Nvidia cards, no matter the driver is Nvidia or Nouveau)

The other HP Pavilion is 32 bit, so I couldn't test it (as all the liquorix ones after 5.1 are 64bit).. Actually that's the one which never managed to boot a liquorix kernel in its life :) . (Though it's Intel and it's fine with all kernels no matter newest/oldest, even with 5.18 )

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