WLAN (WIFI) works under MX-16.1, MX-17 does not

[waldmattis]

@dolphin_oracle

sudo service network-manager restart

This did not help

[fehlix]

OK. Thanks for the inxi output.
You have used quote-tags " [quote][/quote].
Please do use the code-tag </>
and paste between the code tags [code]paste the output here[/code].
Let's try another one:
Please show us the output of this command

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rfkill list wlan

within code-tags [code] [/code] please.
Thanks

EDIT: We would need the output from running MX17 for both inxi and above rfkill, please.

[Stevo]

This is kind of a shot in the dark, but does switching to the standard Debian 4.9 kernel for MX 17 in the Package Installer make any difference? It's pretty close to the 4.7 version that was working in MX 16.

[waldmattis]

karl@mxkaputt:~

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$ inxi -FNzx
System:    Host: mxkaputt Kernel: 4.15.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.31) Distro: MX-17.1_x64 Horizon March 14, 2018 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: MEDION product: P6612 v: 20 serial: N/A 
           Mobo: MEDION model: P6612 serial: N/A BIOS: Phoenix v: V1.02 date: 09/11/2008 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 56.0 Wh condition: 56.0/65.1 Wh (86%) model: SMP-BAK-22 M08B1 
           status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo T5800 type: MCP arch: Conroe rev: 13 
           L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 7981 
           Speed: 1615 MHz min/max: 800/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1615 2: 1583 
Graphics:  Card-1: NVIDIA G96M [GeForce 9600M GS] driver: nvidia v: 340.106 bus ID: 01:00.0 
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.2) driver: nvidia 
           resolution: 1366x768~60Hz, 1360x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce 9600M GS/PCIe/SSE2 v: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.106 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Card-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.15.0-1-amd64 
Network:   Card-1: Intel WiFi Link 5100 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus ID: 02:00.0 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 3000 bus ID: 03:00.0 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Card-3: Realtek RTL8187 Wireless Adapter type: USB driver: rtl8187 bus ID: 2:4 
           IF: wlan1 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 232.89 GiB used: 6.27 GiB (2.7%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_850 size: 232.89 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 30.00 GiB used: 6.27 GiB (20.9%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda5 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.10 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda6 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0 C mobo: 54.0 C gpu: nvidia temp: 64 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 190 Uptime: 9m Memory: 3.85 GiB used: 449.9 MiB (11.4%) Init: SysVinit 
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.00 

karl@mxkaputt:~
$


karl@mxkaputt:~

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$ rfkill list wlan
0: phy0: Wireless LAN
	Soft blocked: no
	Hard blocked: yes
1: phy1: Wireless LAN
	Soft blocked: no
	Hard blocked: no

karl@mxkaputt:~
$

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EDIT: Since you ignored my request to paste the output into code-tags, I did it for you now!
fehlix

[Stevo]

Have you looked into how expensive and troublesome it would be to replace the keyboard?

Conversely, would it be possible to assign a key combo on the wireless combo that would send the same signal as the wi-fi switch on the broken keyboard?

[waldmattis]

@Stevo
Yes, I searched ebay for weeks to find a keyboard that matched my laptop.
Unfortunately, there were neither used nor new ones.

The manufacturer of the laptop wrote me that there are no more spare parts for a 9 year old device.
He also does not know what code the keyboard sends to turn off the WLAN.
So I can't program my actually programmable keyboard with the right code.

What remains amazing for me is that MX-16.1 obviously doesn't care that the hardware switch is switched off.
It still enables WLAN.
So it can't really be a hardware-based WLAN shutdown.
regards
Karl

[fehlix]

What remains amazing for me is that MX-16.1 obviously doesn't care that the hardware switch is switched off.

That appears indeed amazing. What does "rfkill list wlan" shows using MX16?
Not clear to me, are you connecting through internal "Intel WiFi" on MX16
and will the USB-wifi "Realtek RTL8187" work on MX16 too?

Yes, I searched ebay for weeks to find a keyboard that matched my laptop.
Unfortunately, there were neither used nor new ones.

Would that help: Tastatur, deutsch (DE) - klassisch - für Medion Akoya P6612 (MD 97110)

fehlix

[waldmattis]

@fehlix
Both WLAN receivers, the built-in laptop and the external USB receiver, work with MX-16.1.

No one works with MX-17.

Thanks for the link to the keyboard.

I am currently on holiday in Poland.
This makes everything more difficult, but MX-16.1 works as an emergency solution, thank God.
At my home in Germany I connect this Laptop to the Internet by ethernet cable.
So I did not recognize this Problem before going to Poland.

I'll contact the company after my vacation.
And once again many thanks to you for your efforts and help.
Regards
Karl
PS
Are you German?
I am.

[sunrat]

You could try

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rfkill unblock all

[tascoast]

FWIW my two desktop's USB wifi dongles respond a little differently between MX-16 and MX-17, the latter being less accommodating.

viewtopic.php?f=107&t=43411&p=428780&hi ... le#p428651 details some of my efforts to get a newer TP-Link model working, although I currently just tether my android phone to access the World Waste Whirlpool.

There are a few threads related to wifi hardware and efforts to resolve, on this forum.

On keyboards, a cheap wired one from the supermarket or relevant el cheapo store might facilitate the underlying efforts to resolve wifi and bypass laptop keyboard issues?