Does antiX + XFCE = MX? Would LXDE be better?

[shrinker09]

I was running MX-Linux on my older desktop, but the latest MX wasn't running well, so I installed antiX instead and that's working very well, though I miss XFCE. I was thinking about installing XFCE on antiX. I tried it once, but it made my screen go blank. Now, a couple months later, I'm thinking about it again. It sounds like using XFCE involves more than just installing it with synaptic package manager and clicking it under Desktop options -- xorg also has to be installed via the terminal. As I'm looking up instructions on how to do that, I'm sensing from online comparisons that if I install XFCE, I might as well be running MX-Linux because XFCE, as a midweight DE, is what makes MX-Linux a midweight distro. Is that the case?

Would LXDE be a better option to keep antiX light and fast? Would it come with a trash can (which is what I miss most about XFCE)? If I use LXDE, do I need to do more than install it and click it under desktop options? I'm not finding instructions for that online.

[rokytnji.1]

Use antix package installer instead of synaptic to install Desktop environments like xfce, xfce lite, etc.........

Not sure since I am not you about whether xfce or lxde will give you more joy on that hardware.
All I can do is show a old thread of mine show casing my LXDE antix install.
https://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=31202

[dolphin_oracle]

xfce has a trash can, but it requies the the gvfs package backend to be installed, which might not get installed by default when installing xfce on antiX. easy to add though. most of the desktop environment file browers, including pcmanfm on lxde, require gvfs to supply those extra virtual filesystem features like network:// and trash://

and no, MX is not antiX with Xfce. MX is not systemd free, and antiX is, so there while there is a lot of overlap with the live system and packages, they aren't the same under the hood.

[shrinker09]

Use antix package installer instead of synaptic to install Desktop environments like xfce, xfce lite, etc.........

Oh! I didn't even think of using antix package installer!

I used it to install xfce and rebooted the computer, and now I have a desktop that seems more like what I'm used to, there's even a trash can icon on the desktop. Thanks to both of you.


That's wrong. I have no idea how because I uninstalled both XFCE and LXDE via synaptic, and then I installed XFCE with the antix package installer and rebooted . . . and the desktop I have is LXDE. It's a mystery, but everything is working, so I'm just going to leave it.

[putih]

You might try bento Antix
Antix based with LXDE desktop.
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic ... 24th-2021/

[anticapitalista]

You might try bento Antix
Antix based with LXDE desktop.
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic ... 24th-2021/

Actually Bento is an openbox (not lxde) spin of antiX

[Artim]

I added Xfce to my antiX (using the antiX installer, not Synaptic or apt-get), but it's sure not the same as MX! Very fast, still very lean and mean.

[Artim]

Well, update: antiX with Xfce doesn't seem to go the way I was always used to on other Xfce mixtures (MX, Xubu, Mint Xfce, Linux Lite, even SalixOS). I think it requires some systemd-like stuff, elogind or whatever, to run the way it does on MX. If you want Xfce, distros meant for that desktop are better to use, I think, that just throwing Xfce onto a distro that wasn't really intended to use any desktop environment at all.

If you are a "no systemd, no elogind" purist, not even Slackware can offer the satisfaction that antiX offers for that absolutely pure systemd/elogind-free mixture. But if you want a desktop environment to go with it, it might not be possible for much longer.

[rokytnji.1]

Actually. I am always comfy in Icewm. Fast. I run a ton of stuff. Stereo, PDF Manuals, Browser. This is my motorcycle shop wireless desktop AntiX 21/22 setup. It don't look too bad and is light on resources. My zzzfm file manager has a send to trash option for delete when right clicked. I never use it. I don't second guess usually when I want something gone. That is tint bar. Not a icewm toolbar.

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harry@shop:~
$ pinxi -Fxxx
System:
  Host: shop Kernel: 5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.2.3 info: tint2 vt: 7
    dm: slimski v: 1.5.0 Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 
    base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: LENOVO product: 6075BHU v: ThinkCentre M57
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: LENOVO serial: <superuser required> BIOS: LENOVO
    v: 2RKT41AUS date: 03/20/2008
CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Intel Pentium Dual E2160 bits: 64 type: MCP
    smt: <unsupported> arch: Core2 Merom rev: D cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 1024 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1666 high: 1758 min/max: 1200/1800 cores: 1: 1758
    2: 1574 bogomips: 7181
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo
    driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-4 ports: active: VGA-1 empty: none
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:29b2 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: intel
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: i915 gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x1024 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x270mm (13.31x10.63")
    s-diag: 433mm (17.03")
  Monitor-1: VGA-1 mapped: VGA1 model: ViewSonic VA912-3SERIES
    serial: PUR063374858 res: 1280x1024 hz: 60 dpi: 86
    size: 380x300mm (14.96x11.81") diag: 482mm (19") modes: max: 1280x1024
    min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 1.4 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Q35
    direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:293e class-ID: 0403
  Sound API: ALSA v: k5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e
    v: kernel port: 1820 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10bd class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:1a:6b:55:6a:32
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter type: USB driver: r8712u
    bus-ID: 2-6.4:5 chip-ID: 0bda:8172 class-ID: 0000 serial: 00e04c000001
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:0f:13:65:15:32
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 298.09 GiB used: 30.34 GiB (10.2%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD3200AAKS-00B3A0
    size: 298.09 GiB speed: <unknown> type: N/A serial: WD-WMAT10821761 
    rev: 3A01 scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 252.52 GiB used: 30.34 GiB (12.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 3.91 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
    dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 147 Uptime: 42m wakeups: 1 Memory: 3.58 GiB
  used: 1.05 GiB (29.2%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5
  Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 1623 Shell: Bash
  v: 5.1.4 running-in: roxterm pinxi: 3.3.24-1

My MX Fluxbox install is still a learning process for me. Everything works though.