Hi All
I just put together a new computer. Ryzen 1600, B450 motherboard, 16 gig ram, 2 ssds, ati hd7770 video card. I have the / directory on a 250G m.2 drive and the /home directory on a 250G normal SATA SSD.
What happens is that the ssystem just freezes, it has happened about 3 times now. Leading up to it the system memory usage has been at anywhere from 2% to 20%, cpu usage is very low. I think it might be a hardware issue since it's a new build, but I need help narrowing this down to a specific component? Is there any diagnostic I could run? are there any error log files i could look at? it might be the video card which is kind of old, or I'm thinking maybe the m.2 SSD is acting up since i've never used one before I'm not sure if there's some BIOS settings i should change for it.
Thanks in advance for your help.
[Solved] MX 18 freezes randomly
[Solved] MX 18 freezes randomly
Last edited by Sanji on Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: MX 18 freezes randomly
Make sure that you have the latest BIOS update (v17) installed. There were lots of problems with the Ryzen processors on that motherboard with earlier BIOS versions. Quick System Info will show you the version and that Info can help us help you so post it back here.
I found this thread on Ryzen soft lockups that suggests that a BIOS setting for Power Supply Idle Control may be needed, although looking through the BIOS updates for your board that may have been handled already in the latest BIOS version.
I found this thread on Ryzen soft lockups that suggests that a BIOS setting for Power Supply Idle Control may be needed, although looking through the BIOS updates for your board that may have been handled already in the latest BIOS version.
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Re: MX 18 freezes randomly
Also see this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=47613
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=47613
Please read the Forum Rules, How To Ask For Help, How to Break Your System and Don't Break Debian. Always include your full Quick System Info (QSI) with each and every new help request.
Re: MX 18 freezes randomly
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System: Host: Nienna Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0
Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.2_x64 Continuum Feb 9 2019
base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine: Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7B86 v: 1.0 serial: <filter>
Mobo: Micro-Star model: B450 GAMING PLUS (MS-7B86) v: 1.0 serial: <filter>
UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 1.50 date: 01/25/2019
Battery: Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech M570 charge: 80% status: Discharging
CPU: Topology: 6-Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen rev: 1
L2 cache: 3072 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 76790
Speed: 1378 MHz min/max: 1550/3200 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1378 2: 1377 3: 1377
4: 1377 5: 1377 6: 1377 7: 1376 8: 1377 9: 1379 10: 1402 11: 1485 12: 1353
Graphics: Device-1: AMD Juniper XT [Radeon HD 5770] vendor: Hightech Information System
driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 1f:00.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD JUNIPER (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.19.0-1-amd64 LLVM 7.0.0)
v: 3.3 Mesa 18.2.6 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: AMD Juniper HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5700 Series]
vendor: Hightech Information System driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 1f:00.1
Device-2: AMD vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 21:00.3
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-amd64
Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: f000 bus ID: 18:00.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR93xx Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath9k v: kernel
port: f000 bus ID: 1c:00.0
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 961.34 GiB used: 7.03 GiB (0.7%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: HP model: SSD EX900 250GB size: 232.89 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WDS250G2B0A-00SM50 size: 232.89 GiB
ID-3: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000BMVU-11A08S0
size: 465.76 GiB
ID-4: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive size: 29.81 GiB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 212.85 GiB used: 5.86 GiB (2.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
ID-2: /home size: 228.23 GiB used: 1.17 GiB (0.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-3: swap-1 size: 15.62 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 29.9 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 34 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos: Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info: Processes: 261 Uptime: 1h 13m Memory: 15.68 GiB used: 1.95 GiB (12.5%) Init: SysVinit
runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.33
Re: MX 18 freezes randomly
Your bios looks new enough.
You have to find the " Power Supply Idle Control " settings and set it from "auto" to "Typical Current Idle"
It's may not so easy to find on msi-motherboards the following links may help
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=301425.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8 ... 1d_is_out/
You have to find the " Power Supply Idle Control " settings and set it from "auto" to "Typical Current Idle"
It's may not so easy to find on msi-motherboards the following links may help
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=301425.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8 ... 1d_is_out/
Re: MX 18 freezes randomly
Just talking without knowing but might a kernel other than Nienna Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 be helpful (like the 5.0.6 Liqourix from @stevo) ?
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Re: MX 18 freezes randomly
I think the kernel is fine. I am using close to the same chipset here (AMD Ryzen 5 1400) and I think you should check your UEFI/BIOS firmware setting.
See Tim's (timkb4cq) post above...Making the change he mentioned solved my similar Ryzen instability...viewtopic.php?p=496533#p496533
See Tim's (timkb4cq) post above...Making the change he mentioned solved my similar Ryzen instability...viewtopic.php?p=496533#p496533
Asus Prime X570-Pro | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
16 Gig DDR4 3600 | Radeon RX 5600 XT Graphics
Samsung 860 500GB SSDs (2)
Re: MX 18 freezes randomly
Hello again
I just got home from work read all of your responses, thank you so much for taking the time to look into this.
I have set the Power supply idle control to 'Typical Current Idle', and will wait and see if this works.
By the way this was in the Overclocking settings for my MSI B450 motherboard.
The bug is not easily reproducible and doesn't happen during every login session so it will take a few days to know for sure if this works.
I just got home from work read all of your responses, thank you so much for taking the time to look into this.
I have set the Power supply idle control to 'Typical Current Idle', and will wait and see if this works.
By the way this was in the Overclocking settings for my MSI B450 motherboard.
The bug is not easily reproducible and doesn't happen during every login session so it will take a few days to know for sure if this works.
Re: MX 18 freezes randomly
Hi All
Everything has been running smoothly thus far. It looks like the solution was to set the Power supply idle control to 'Typical Current Idle' in the BIOS settings.
Has anyone tried contacting the motherboard manufacturer or AMD about changing the default settings for this? Is this going to increase my power consumption significantly?
Thanks again.
Everything has been running smoothly thus far. It looks like the solution was to set the Power supply idle control to 'Typical Current Idle' in the BIOS settings.
Has anyone tried contacting the motherboard manufacturer or AMD about changing the default settings for this? Is this going to increase my power consumption significantly?
Thanks again.