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Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!

#11 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

asqwerth wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:48 pm It's with the 4.19 kernel from upstream Debian.
Doesn't MX compile their own kernel versions?

If so then "upstream" is kernel.org rather than Debian.
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#12 Post by asqwerth »

Ah so, you may be right. All I know is "upstream", I just assumed Debian.
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Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!

#13 Post by Jules »

Hi there,

Had the same problems here. Wifi was gone after kernel update. I changed to an older kernel, and it's working again.
Is there something more that I can or must do? Below is the quick system info. I now use the 4.19.01:

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System:
  Host: mxbox Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc 
  v: 6.3.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 
  Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum March 14  2018 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:
  Type: Portable System: Dell product: Inspiron 3543 v: A01 
  serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Dell model: 0YP78Y v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: Dell 
  v: A01 date: 11/04/2014 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 24.7 Wh condition: 24.7/41.4 Wh (60%) 
  model: LGC-LGC2.8 DELL T1G4M4B status: Full 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-5200U bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Broadwell rev: 4 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 17557 
  Speed: 998 MHz min/max: 500/2700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 998 
  2: 1706 3: 1701 4: 1715 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 18.2.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Broadwell-U Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 
  Device-2: Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: Dell 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-amd64 
Network:
  Device-1: Broadcom Limited BCM43142 802.11b/g/n 
  vendor: Dell Wireless 1704 802.11n + BT 4.0 driver: wl v: kernel 
  port: f040 bus ID: 06:00.0 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 07:00.0 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 9.96 GiB (1.1%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM024 HN-M101MBB 
  size: 931.51 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 913.65 GiB used: 9.96 GiB (1.1%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/sda2 
  ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap 
  dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0 C mobo: 45.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Repos:
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
  1: deb http://nl.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb http://nl.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:
  Processes: 203 Uptime: 3h 27m Memory: 7.71 GiB used: 2.29 GiB (29.8%) 
  Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash 
  v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.33 

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Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!

#14 Post by anticapitalista »

Head_on_a_Stick wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:56 pm
asqwerth wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:48 pm It's with the 4.19 kernel from upstream Debian.
Doesn't MX compile their own kernel versions?

If so then "upstream" is kernel.org rather than Debian.
The issue is with the 4.19 MX kernel, not Debian's nor kernel.org's
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anticapitalista wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:37 pm
Head_on_a_Stick wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:56 pm
asqwerth wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:48 pm It's with the 4.19 kernel from upstream Debian.
Doesn't MX compile their own kernel versions?

If so then "upstream" is kernel.org rather than Debian.
The issue is with the 4.19 MX kernel, not Debian's nor kernel.org's
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#16 Post by anticapitalista »

richb wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:39 pm
anticapitalista wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:37 pm
Head_on_a_Stick wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:56 pm

Doesn't MX compile their own kernel versions?

If so then "upstream" is kernel.org rather than Debian.
The issue is with the 4.19 MX kernel, not Debian's nor kernel.org's
We own it.
...and (just as importantly) we can fix it too!
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Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!

#17 Post by eriefisher »

asqwerth wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:48 pm
eriefisher wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:13 pm So this is with a Live or Persistent install only?

I have the upgrade from a few days ago with a full install and notice no issues. However, I tried both the 5. antix and Liquorix kernels and could not maintain wireless stability with either. Not sure if related but I put it out there just in case it helps. Also this is a ~week old fresh install MX18.3.

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It's with the 4.19 kernel from upstream Debian.

If you have Nvidia graphics, also be cautious.

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$ uname -r
4.19.0-5-amd64
I likely don't see the issue immediately due to intel graphics and wireless. I did question that it did overwrite the kernel as opposed to installing alongside but didn't see an issue post update so didn't worry'
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#18 Post by masterpeace »

I'm using Kernel provided with Rufus , when it proceed to make live-USB-Installer , rufus give a warning and said this kernel might not be working on the specified distribution ... (not verbatim but i think it's close enough) and give option to download the latest kernel

And the friend that recommend me MX Linux did have the same problem , until he used my live-usb to upgrade ...

So i hope this helps ...

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#19 Post by JayM »

The issue with the newer 4.19 kernel was fixed five days ago. See MX News and Announcements.
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