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System update = security risk ??

#1 Post by Steve_Wakey » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:18 pm

I have installed MX-14 on my old laptop from a magazine cover DVD, and it is working well.
An icon in the notification area tells me there are more than 300 updates available. I would think it`s generally a good idea to install all of these updates. However, when I go into Synaptic Package Manager and mark them all, it returns a warning ; "You are about to install software that cannot be authenticated. This may allow a malicious individual to damage or take control of your system".

I can see no way to identify the files that it is warning about, or to remove them from the list for downloading. So there seem to be only two options:
1. Abort the update and carry on using the system as it is, or
2. Ignore the warning and install all the updates.
I am inclined to go for number 2, but does anyone have any advice ?

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Re: System update = security risk ??

#2 Post by Jerry3904 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:24 pm

I don't know why you got this message, but MX-14 is very old at this point and I think you would be much happier if you install MX-16.1

https://mxlinux.org/download-links
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Re: System update = security risk ??

#3 Post by timkb4cq » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:04 pm

It's possible that one of the repository keys is expired or otherwise missing.
If you run

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sudo apt-get update
in a terminal there will be a message if this is the case.
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Re: System update = security risk ??

#4 Post by Steve_Wakey » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:29 pm

Thanks for the suggestion. I`m sure you`re right about MX-16
The problem with that is the limitations of my hardware. This laptop can read a CD or DVD ; it can write to a CD but not a DVD. If I download the ISO for a new version, the file is too big to fit on a CD. Until I figure out a way around that (or MX-16 appears on a cover DVD) I am trying to make the best of what I have.

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Re: System update = security risk ??

#5 Post by Stevo » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:34 pm

Steve_Wakey wrote:Thanks for the suggestion. I`m sure you`re right about MX-16
The problem with that is the limitations of my hardware. This laptop can read a CD or DVD ; it can write to a CD but not a DVD. If I download the ISO for a new version, the file is too big to fit on a CD. Until I figure out a way around that (or MX-16 appears on a cover DVD) I am trying to make the best of what I have.
There are ways to get even an old machine that doesn't support booting from a USB Flash Drive to boot from one. There is also a "CORE" respin that fits on a CD; that has many of the big programs such as LibreOffice and VLC removed--some of those have replacements such as SMPlayer or Pale Moon on the CD, but you can always just install what's missing.

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#6 Post by uncle mark » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:42 pm

Steve_Wakey wrote:Thanks for the suggestion. I`m sure you`re right about MX-16
The problem with that is the limitations of my hardware. This laptop can read a CD or DVD ; it can write to a CD but not a DVD. If I download the ISO for a new version, the file is too big to fit on a CD. Until I figure out a way around that (or MX-16 appears on a cover DVD) I am trying to make the best of what I have.
What's your location? Send me your address and I'll mail you one, fer cryin' out loud. (I'm in Indiana.)
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#7 Post by uncle mark » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:48 pm

uncle mark wrote:
Steve_Wakey wrote:Thanks for the suggestion. I`m sure you`re right about MX-16
The problem with that is the limitations of my hardware. This laptop can read a CD or DVD ; it can write to a CD but not a DVD. If I download the ISO for a new version, the file is too big to fit on a CD. Until I figure out a way around that (or MX-16 appears on a cover DVD) I am trying to make the best of what I have.
What's your location? Send me your address and I'll mail you one, fer cryin' out loud. (I'm in Indiana.)
And there's always this:

https://www.osdisc.com/products/mx?affiliate=mx14
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#8 Post by Jerry3904 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:49 pm

You can also order one from OSDisk for a responsible price (see Download page)
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Re: System update = security risk ??

#9 Post by entropyfoe » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:50 pm

What about trying antix, it fits onto a CD.
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Re: System update = security risk ??

#10 Post by Steve_Wakey » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:17 pm

Uncle Mark - I won`t take up your offer ; I`m on the other side of the pond in old England, so it would be too much to ask, but thanks very much anyway.
And thanks to everyone else replying to this post - a load of good ideas that I will check out.

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