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Eadwine Rose
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Re: World Cup 2018

#71 Post by Eadwine Rose »

Same with the disabled folk here. We have world leading tennis players in this country. ONE station gave them some attention. Does it get aired on TV? Nope.

It's all about demand.

k_sz: just turn off the tv, I only turn it on when I want to see something in particular. The rest like news on the internet: shrug and move on.

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Re: World Cup 2018

#72 Post by cyrilus31 »

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:05 pm Same with the disabled folk here. We have world leading tennis players in this country. ONE station gave them some attention. Does it get aired on TV? Nope.
It's all about demand.
I have had chance to see winter paralympics games with my sons on main public french TV with good coverage. Just to show them we are all different but we can do so much. They were really amazed. :number1:

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Re: World Cup 2018

#73 Post by Eadwine Rose »

Way cool!! *thumbs up*
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Re: World Cup 2018

#74 Post by k_sz »

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:05 pm(snip)
k_sz: just turn off the tv, I only turn it on when I want to see something in particular. The rest like news on the internet: shrug and move on.
No TV in my homes, mate - since approximatively 25 years. Also, no need for an internet connexion to meet or read professional afficionados since propaganda has been widely spread since decades - with (at least in occidental countries) a gap between Roman empire and early 20th century AFAIK.
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Re: World Cup 2018

#75 Post by ekeimaja »

Congratz France! :number1: Will the next win be on 2038? :p
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Re: World Cup 2018

#76 Post by oops »

k_sz wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:21 pm....
So... Yes : the so called victory is going to be a pain in the ass for months - and even years, due to a large part of my fellow-citizens...
Not really agree ... People are lucid, they know that the victory is ephemeral, but they take advantage when it happens because it is a shame to be a killjoy just by principle or dogma.
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Re: World Cup 2018

#77 Post by k_sz »

oops wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:52 pm
k_sz wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:21 pm....
So... Yes : the so called victory is going to be a pain in the ass for months - and even years, due to a large part of my fellow-citizens...
Not really agree ... People are lucid, they know that the victory is ephemeral, but they take advantage when it happens because it is a shame to be a killjoy just by principle or dogma.
No shame at all for being considered as a killjoy when the arguments of the so called 'killjoy' are deeply rooted, based and solid, when the source of said joy is, in facts, a rotten swamp (my POV, though - it could be also named "Stairway to Heaven" but, even out of any copyright interest, i disagree(*)) of lies, greed, bias, false flags and ethico-political bs, the whole of it disguised as a dailycious donut.

No shame at all to express a founded disagrement nor to point out that the source of this patriotic carnaval's trance is a trap.
And no need either to go godwinesque when comparing a crowd to another, eg. both of these crowds blessing knowned forgeries and obvious crowd control aka propaganda. Who could really want to argue about "people"="lucid" ?

Your assumption that one, being at risk of shame while identifying theirselves as a member of a group/cult, would avoid this shame of disagreeing with said group by howling with the wolves/mobbing with the bullies, is in line with my POV. The crowd of (un)voluntary clients is partying because the pimp has succeeded. On a gagné !

And well, all of this isn't about an event being knowned as ephemere, it's about a forgery being, deliberately and not, ignored as perennial.

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Re: World Cup 2018

#78 Post by malspa »

Interesting comments by k_sz. Lol, I am certainly not the sports-crazed kid I used to be! Pro sports, ("American") college football, I see all of that silliness in a much different light these days. I've backed off from all that to a very large degree over the past few decades. I used to pay for cable tv mainly so that I could watch ESPN. Now, my tv stays turned off most of the time, and I don't spend a dime on cable (I watch World Cup on Telemundo -- "free" tv!). I don't wear caps and shirts that show off my allegiance to certain teams like I used to. Got rid of the jerseys and everything. I think I've become somewhat of a "killjoy" myself, like when someone asks something like, "What's your team?", and I have to admit that, well, I really don't have a team. Ha-ha, I like when the underdog wins, more than anything.

On the other hand, Life is short, and too often, very difficult. Sometimes ya just wanna chill, kick back and enjoy things a little bit. Football (aka "soccer") can be such a beautiful game, and World Cup is an opportunity to celebrate another four years "on this side of the grass," as they say. It's kinda nice seeing the players and fans from all over, in a venue where folks are not engaged in killing each other off. We're all children of the same world, right? Nothing else like this rock in all the Universe, for all we know.

So, k_sz, I say: Relax. Smile a little bit. The good and the bad are all part of the same whole, in the end, seems to me. If people wanna get all caught up in this sort of thing, so what?

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Re: World Cup 2018

#79 Post by asqwerth »

I like football and have done so for decades. When played by 2 skilful sides, it's wonderful to watch. No apologies from me for enjoying the game and following this World Cup.

I do feel sorry for Croatia because I question the awarding of the freekick that led to France's first goal and the penalty decision. Croatia played really well, but ultimately they lacked the final finishing touch and couldn't put the ball in the net despite their chances. I think France just about shaded it on the night.
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Re: World Cup 2018

#80 Post by Gordon Cooper »

As seems to happen in most world wide sports tournaments, there is some disagreement about the result. Although the 'round ball' version of football does not lead in our country there are many followers of the game. However, this thread has nothing to do with MX-Linux. May I respectfully suggest that the thread be closed - for another few years.
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