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archive.debian.org/ dificulties (M8)

#1 Post by TenderFoot » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:18 pm

This seems to be the most appropriate forum for an M8 question - though strangely (to me!) many of the posts here refer to MX-14.

Anyway, one of my too frequent reinstalls of M8 (not M8's fault but because I seem to be in a perpetual loop of rebuilding machines based on a variable pool of h/w!) seems to have run into an impass with http://archive.debian.org/debian/ repo.

Firstly with GPG to which I tried all the previous strategies but yet again (for me) a new hurdle - namely the abovementioned repo refused to resolve. Eventually I navigated to http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/m ... y1_all.deb, download and installed the deb package. Reloaded again and everything went smoothly so successfully updated (ie without reported errors).

Next, I went ahead with installing Opera from deb package but it failed because of a couple of dependencies - gstreamer0.10-plugins-good and ttf-liberation - so tried to install them via Synaptic. However, this failed because a number of their dependencies were refused by http://archive.debian.org/debian/. Once again I could navigate to each one and install manually but this should not be necessary? Why is that repo being recalcitrant (to me!)?

[Should anyway choose to question why I persist with M8 it is because I like it, especially as probably the last KDE3 distro in the world (and I may be the last M8 user in the world)! I also persist with WinXP and Win7 - both of which are older than M8 - and unlikely to upgrade beyond that until M$ come out with something a lot better than Win8.1 (and touch screens become more ubiquitous). I am also still happy with M11 and now MX-14...]

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Re: archive.debian.org/ dificulties (M8)

#2 Post by kmathern » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:31 pm

Just guessing here, was one of your updates after installing/reinstalling the debian-archive-keyring package a mepis-config update?

A mepis-config update would set it back to the gpg keys that a new Mepis 8 installs comes with, including the expired Debian gpg key.

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Re: archive.debian.org/ dificulties (M8)

#3 Post by Jerry3904 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:54 pm

This seems to be the most appropriate forum for an M8 question - though strangely (to me!) many of the posts here refer to MX-14.
What do you mean by "here"? The forum you are posting in seems all about MEPIS to me at first glance. If you mean by "here" the Forum more generally, well things have changed.
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Re: archive.debian.org/ dificulties (M8)

#4 Post by TenderFoot » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:03 pm

If you mean a "normal" first update (226 packages) then I don't know - unless it would be included in that. Unfortunately, that install has now gone t..s up since trying to add nvidia(new) drivers so can't check.

Will have to reinstall once more and watch more closely (and review earlier posts about about nvidia drivers on this machine)!

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Re: archive.debian.org/ dificulties (M8)

#5 Post by kmathern » Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:32 pm

TenderFoot wrote:If you mean a "normal" first update (226 packages) then I don't know - unless it would be included in that. Unfortunately, that install has now gone t..s up since trying to add nvidia(new) drivers so can't check...
I'm pretty sure there is a mepis-config update in that first big update.

Checking here: http://mepis.mirrorcatalogs.com/released/, it looks like the last Mepis 8 iso release (SimplyMEPIS-CD_8.0.15) was on 12 Jan. 2010.

The last mepis-config update for M8 (mepis-config_8.0.17_all.deb @ ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/pool/main/m/mepis-config/), is dated 03/01/2011, which is over a year after the last iso release.

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#6 Post by TenderFoot » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:09 pm

Mmm - but I've installed a dozen times since 2011 but not encountered this particular one before.

My first stage was http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=MEPIS_key

Then taken from http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 84&t=35219 but did not give the expected output - possibly due to trying to install Opera before updating.

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root@Vision:/home/Chris# apt-get --reinstall install debian-archive-keyring
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  debian-archive-keyring
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 228 not upgraded.
Need to get 20.0kB of archives.
After this operation, 4096B of additional disk space will be used.
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  debian-archive-keyring
Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
Err http://archive.debian.org lenny/main debian-archive-keyring 2010.08.28~lenny1
  Could not resolve ‘archive.debian.org’
Failed to fetch http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debian-archive-keyring/debian-archive-keyring_2010.08.28~lenny1_all.deb  Could not resolve ‘archive.debian.org’
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
At which point I downloaded and installed -

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<package/debian-archive-keyring_2010.08.28~lenny1_all.deb' ;echo RESULT=$?
(Reading database ... 73375 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace debian-archive-keyring 2009.01.31 (using .../debian-archive-keyring_2010.08.28~lenny1_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement debian-archive-keyring ...
Setting up debian-archive-keyring (2010.08.28~lenny1) ...
gpg: key F42584E6: "Lenny Stable Release Key <debian-release@lists.debian.org>" not changed
gpg: key 55BE302B: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" not changed
gpg: key 6D849617: "Debian-Volatile Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny)" not changed
gpg: key B98321F9: public key "Squeeze Stable Release Key <debian-release@lists.debian.org>" imported
gpg: key 473041FA: public key "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (6.0/squeeze) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" imported
gpg: Total number processed: 5
gpg:               imported: 2  (RSA: 2)
gpg:              unchanged: 3
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
RESULT=0
Which I took to be sucessful as update via Synaptic was error/warning free.

The subsequent attempts to satisfy Opera's needs resulted in umpteen

W: Failed to fetch http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/<package> messages

Anyway, have reinstalled M8 and will take it very slowly...!

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Re: archive.debian.org/ dificulties (M8)

#7 Post by lucky9 » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:18 pm

Have you tried the sgfxi script to install the nvidia driver? At any rate you will need an older nvidia driver. One that is for lenny. I would think that would apply to Opera also.
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Re: archive.debian.org/ dificulties (M8)

#8 Post by kmathern » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:23 pm

The "Failed to fetch http://archive.debian.org... & "Could not resolve ‘archive.debian.org’ " errors sound like a DNS problem or some other type of network related problem.

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Re: archive.debian.org/ dificulties (M8)

#9 Post by TenderFoot » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:54 pm

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Have you tried the sgfxi script to install the nvidia driver? At any rate you will need an older nvidia driver. One that is for lenny. I would think that would apply to Opera also.
As I recollect the nvidia issue was eventually resolved (after a 5 page thread!) without sgfxi. Opera 12.02 is not a problem provided the issue in OP are sorted.

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The "Failed to fetch http://archive.debian.org... & "Could not resolve ‘archive.debian.org’ " errors sound like a DNS problem or some other type of network related problem.
That wouldn't surprise me given experiences described in a recent thread although during this process it's behaving impeccably (even if the Reload part is rather slow) - but this time I'll proceed slowly anyway!

EDIT
Ok - was stuck with debian-archive again so downloaded and installed the deb - again! Now I see what you mean. It is dated 2010.08.28 so how do I get the later one?

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