antiX questions re:removing select window managers and some file managers

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Re: antiX questions re:removing select window managers and some file managers

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dreamer wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 6:14 pm [...]

Thanks for your efforts manyroads! Your efforts creating "antiXfce" are not in vain even if MX Linux stays sysvinit. I think you make it slightly harder for yourself by incorporating two sessions. Why not make an Openbox ISO and an Xfce ISO? That way there is less entanglement between the "DEs". Just a thought. You have at least another year to complete your work, because Debian Stretch isn't going anywhere. I usually have two DEs installed myself, but it can make the menu more confusing. I don't mind an ISO with two sessions or more, I just thought it would be more work.

I also hope MX Linux stays with sysvinit. I think it's important for Linux. But I understand if they don't want to fight the app ecosystem and focus on building a great distro. I think whatever they choose MX Linux will become slightly smaller so there is no good choice really. But smaller can also be better, because it's easier to target a more uniform group of users.
You are most welcome.

I think the application issue argument re: requiring systemd is not horribly relevant... I think apps are 'most likely' going the way of appimages, snaps and flatpaks. Systemd or no systemd ought to be transparent. I have been testing that and not seen a problem or conflict yet.

As for OB and xfce co-existing, they seem to be able to do that without difficulty. I do agree though that the other antiX wms should stay together on/in the traditional antiX. LXQt almost certainly will not go well on the same desktop with the OB/xfce combination. Although it can go together with OB alone.
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Re: antiX questions re:removing select window managers and some file managers

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manyroads wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 6:40 pm I think the application issue argument re: requiring systemd is not horribly relevant... I think apps are 'most likely' going the way of appimages, snaps and flatpaks.
Really? Why would anyone think that? Self-contained apps are horribly inefficient.
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Re: antiX questions re:removing select window managers and some file managers

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figueroa wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 7:21 pm
manyroads wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 6:40 pm I think the application issue argument re: requiring systemd is not horribly relevant... I think apps are 'most likely' going the way of appimages, snaps and flatpaks.
Really? Why would anyone think that? Self-contained apps are horribly inefficient.
Perhaps for the same reason they all flock to the horribly inefficient systemd. :bagoverhead:
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Re: antiX questions re:removing select window managers and some file managers

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manyroads wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 7:25 pm Perhaps for the same reason they all flock to the horribly inefficient systemd.
Hah! That's a pretty good answer. :-)
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Re: antiX questions re:removing select window managers and some file managers

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regards

you have to use NET-INSTALL and use
apps as you wish!

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Re: antiX questions re:removing select window managers and some file managers

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manyroads wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 12:48 pm
spanizdogs wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 10:59 am Arch Wiki : very good for this kind of questions.

https://wiki.archlinux.org
Actually the arch wiki won't help at all with antiX specific questions... ;)
Sorry, my mistake :lipsrsealed:
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Re: antiX questions re:removing select window managers and some file managers

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spanizdogs wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 4:34 am Sorry, my mistake :lipsrsealed:
No worries. I make mistakes all the time. Actually after doing some 45+ years of software, I'm pretty much a mistake making expert. :bagoverhead:
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Re: antiX questions re:removing select window managers and some file managers

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bled wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 3:35 am regards

you have to use NET-INSTALL and use
apps as you wish!
For some reason the net-install never works for me.... perhaps because I only install in Virtualbox.
Maybe I'll try it again... :eek:

Edit: I successfully ran the install for 17.4 (yay me :lipsrsealed: )
Sadly apt update fails/ hangs on one of the antix repos. I'll try updating sometime later.
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#19 Post by spanizdogs »

I agree with dreamer. Two desktops is possible but not that great at the end. That's my experience.

? netinstall ? not possible

http://mirror.koddos.net/mxlinux-cd/ANT ... ntiX-17.4/


I guess you want to play around with wm's and install en configure it yourself.

Get inspiration from Bunsenlabs.(Cruchbang) It could be interesting to explore the openbox environment.
Nice communitie too.


small site with handy info.

http://www.lxlinux.com/index.html
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Re: antiX questions re:removing select window managers and some file managers

#20 Post by dreamer »

spanizdogs wrote: Sat May 25, 2019 10:42 am small site with handy info.
http://www.lxlinux.com/index.html
Good info, thanks.

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