Welcome!
Important information
-- Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities
-- Change in MX sources

News
-- MX Linux on social media: here
-- Mepis support still here

Current releases
-- MX-17.1 Final release info here
-- antiX-17 release info here

New users
-- Please read this first, and don't forget to add system and hardware information to posts!
-- Here are the Forum Rules

Another security update for Adobe Flash available

Here users can ask questions about security and tutorials about security can be posted to help others, too.
Message
Author
User avatar
tascoast
Forum Guide
Forum Guide
Posts: 1088
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:58 am

Re: Another security update for Adobe Flash available

#51 Post by tascoast » Sat May 10, 2014 11:23 am

kmathern wrote:
tascoast wrote:
Btw your "11,2,202,346" flash version is outdated, the current version is "11,2,202,356"
Cheers, It reads 11,2,202,356 now so perhaps I needed to reopen Firefox or something.
Lenovo ThinkCentre A58 4GBRAM (64-bit), MX17/MX-16/antiX17/Mint 19

User avatar
Silent Observer
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 432
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:51 pm

Re: Another security update for Adobe Flash available

#52 Post by Silent Observer » Fri May 16, 2014 6:14 am

kmathern wrote:Btw your "11,2,202,346" flash version is outdated, the current version is "11,2,202,356"
And, according to Pogo.com, Yahoo! Games, and most other sites with multiplayer Flash games, even 11,2,202,356 is "outdated"; they'll only allow their games to run on version 13. It's very quickly becoming irrelevant that Linux continues to receive "security updates" from Adobe, when Google isn't providing a system-wide solution for a Flash that can actually run the things we need Flash to use. It's Google's choice not to provide a system-wide version of Pepper Flash, and Mozilla's choice not to support Pepper -- but the only other seemingly viable alternative, the shumway extension (said to be in Firefox from Fx 28) doesn't seem to work on anything not specifically rewritten for it, doesn't have good (or any) sound support, and is painfully slow for things like games (on my Core2Quad at 2.7 GHz, Canabalt on shumway is like playing a video game on a ten year old cell phone with a broken speaker -- and Canabalt isn't a highly demanding app). Linterna Magica only supports video, and not all Flash-driven video can be converted to an HTML5 object (which is Linterna's trick).

Sad to say, Linux stands little to no chance of widening its foothold in the world if it can't play Flash games. We've got productivity apps that beat anything native to Windows, but home users won't install any flavor of Linux if they know they'll have a PITA trying to play online games with their grandkids, distant friends, etc.
MEPIS 11 64-bit, MSI P6NGM-L motherboard, Core 2 Quad 9400 2.67 GHz, 4 GiB PC2-5300 RAM, 1 GiB nVidia GT520 on PCI Express x16.

User avatar
richb
Administrator
Posts: 17466
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:17 pm

Re: Another security update for Adobe Flash available

#53 Post by richb » Fri May 16, 2014 6:39 am

Linux has a foothold in the world that it has earned. Playing games is trivial.

As of June 2013 the operating systems used on the world's top 500 supercomputers were:[82]
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Forum Rules
Guide - How to Ask for Help

Rich
SSD Production: MX 17.1
AMD A8 7600 FM2+ CPU R7 Graphics, 16 GIG Mem. Three Samsung EVO SSD's 250 GB, 350 GB HD

User avatar
Jerry3904
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 22978
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:13 am

Re: Another security update for Adobe Flash available

#54 Post by Jerry3904 » Fri May 16, 2014 8:15 am

For the first time I am able to see that the automatic update has worked. Great!
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Production: 4.15.0-1-amd64, MX-17.1, AMD FX-4130 Quad-Core, GeForce GT 630/PCIe/SSE2, 8 GB, SSD 120 GB, Data 1TB
Testing: AAO 722: 4.15.0-1-386. MX-17.1, AMD C-60 APU, 4 GB
Personal: XPS 13, 4.18.0-19.3-liquorix, 4 GB

User avatar
tascoast
Forum Guide
Forum Guide
Posts: 1088
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:58 am

Re: Another security update for Adobe Flash available

#55 Post by tascoast » Fri May 16, 2014 8:27 am

Virtual farms feed nobody yet they generate a whole lot of CO2 and they aren't a great lifestyle choice all told..
Lenovo ThinkCentre A58 4GBRAM (64-bit), MX17/MX-16/antiX17/Mint 19

User avatar
lucky9
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 11380
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:54 am

Re: Another security update for Adobe Flash available

#56 Post by lucky9 » Fri May 16, 2014 9:28 am

5-6 years ago I had to ask a local movie house site to use something that was standards-based instead of whatever they were using. Less than a week later their site was usable from my Linux-running OS.
8 or 9 years ago I lost a new Linux User to lack of timely Flash updates. Ever since I've blocked all Flash content. I'm not interested in dealing with something that doesn't have anything but a tepid attempt at running on 'Nix. So for me it's HTML 5 (or some other recognized Web Standard) or nothing.
Yes, even I am dishonest. Not in many ways, but in some. Forty-one, I think it is.
--Mark Twain

User avatar
Stevo
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 16929
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:07 pm

Re: Another security update for Adobe Flash available

#57 Post by Stevo » Fri May 16, 2014 9:32 am

It's an unfortunate situation, for sure. I don't know if Mozilla will adapt to use Pepperflash, or if it's possible to write an extension that will do so. Everyone keeps predicting Flash's demise, but it still hangs on.

A workaround would be to use the Windows Flash plugin, either in the Windows Firefox with Wine, or in a Linux browser with Pipelight, if you don't want to use Chrome or Chromium with the latest Pepperflash.

I'm still testing the latest netflix-desktop, which will run Netflix automatically in your native browser if pipelight is installed (this can be overridden with a launch flag). Since the current version is working well, I don't want to break anything, so I'm testing the upgrade procedure and new installs.

User avatar
joany
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 5919
Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:45 pm

Re: Another security update for Adobe Flash available

#58 Post by joany » Fri May 16, 2014 9:43 am

lucky9 wrote:5-6 years ago I had to ask a local movie house site to use something that was standards-based instead of whatever they were using. Less than a week later their site was usable from my Linux-running OS.
8 or 9 years ago I lost a new Linux User to lack of timely Flash updates. Ever since I've blocked all Flash content. I'm not interested in dealing with something that doesn't have anything but a tepid attempt at running on 'Nix. So for me it's HTML 5 (or some other recognized Web Standard) or nothing.
That's an admirable position; unfortunately, there's still too much Flash-only content to abandon it altogether. I went on YouTube's site and opted in for using the HTML5 player "when possible." Short of disabling Flash, how can I tell whether the HTML5 player is actually being used on a particular site?
MX-14; 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae kernel using 4GB RAM
2.4GHz AMD Athlon 4600+
NVidia GeForce 6150 LE; 304.121 Display Driver
You didn't slow down because you're old; you're old because you slowed down.

User avatar
uncle mark
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 4982
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:42 pm

Re: Another security update for Adobe Flash available

#59 Post by uncle mark » Fri May 16, 2014 9:59 am

It's unfortunate that there are just some things that aren't workable with Linux. Photoshop and iTunes and Quickbooks are deal breakers for many. For some, it appears the lack of Flash support may be equally concerning. But that's just the way it is. Linux can't be all things to all people. It was never intended to be that, either. I've learned to live with it the way it is. Others may not be willing or able to do so.
Desktop: Custom build Asus/AMD/nVidia -- MEPIS 11
Laptop: Acer Aspire 5250 -- MX-15
Assorted junk: assorted Linuxes

User avatar
DBeckett
Forum Guide
Forum Guide
Posts: 2779
Joined: Sat May 16, 2009 3:59 pm

Re: Another security update for Adobe Flash available

#60 Post by DBeckett » Fri May 16, 2014 10:09 am

 
It just seems unconscionable that support would be dwindling for something as ubiquitous as Flash.
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3, AMD FX-6100 hex-core, 3.3GHz, 8G, Radeon HD6570

Post Reply

Return to “Security”