Automatic Weather Stations ?

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JeffA
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Re: Automatic Weather Stations ?

#11 Post by JeffA »

Gordon Cooper wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:35 pm Included there is a page listing
current software and systems for automatic stations & WOW (including Rasberry Pi) but some of the listed software is very old and there is very little about Linux.
Are you sure the page is current?

I wasn't able to go to the beta page (I get a "secure connection failed" error), but this page doesn't appear to be current or complete: https://about.metservice.com/our-compan ... -software/

It doesn't list the software mentioned above such as WeeWX which, I believe, is at least as popular and capable as many of the few examples of software they do list. WeeWX has been around for about 10 years. They list Cumulus as only working with Windows, but Cumulus some time ago has been supplanted by Cumulus MX which also works with Linux. They don't show any software being supported by any Windows version above 7 & 8, except where it lists " XP or later", which indicates how long ago the site has been updated.

There isn't that much they list for Windows either, and they are missing Linux solutions.

However, none of this probably changes the assumption that most PWS users do use Windows rather than Linux, and that more programs are written for Windows than Linux. But then, what else is new? :happy:

As with everything else when I abandoned Windows, I looked to see if Linux would meet my needs/desires, such as archiving my data and producing the climatological reports as I have for years, and I found a solution that works for me, and I know there are people on Linux who also report to the various organizations.

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Re: Automatic Weather Stations ?

#12 Post by Gordon Cooper »

JeffA wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:36 am
Gordon Cooper wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:35 pm Included there is a page listing
current software and systems for automatic stations & WOW (including Rasberry Pi) but some of the listed software is very old and there is very little about Linux.
Are you sure the page is current?

I wasn't able to go to the beta page (I get a "secure connection failed" error), but this page doesn't appear to be current or complete: https://about.metservice.com/our-compan ... -software/
The page I commented, is current in their proposed update and was the reason for my response. If you wish to follow this further, you could go to;
https://www.metservice.com/maps-radar/r ... -of-plenty, and visit the test site. From there you can access the pages of info they have
now. The list of AWS software includes references to Win XP, Vista, ME etc. nothing about Win 10 and very little of Linux.

Incidentally, the first AWS I met was a WW2 US built, that was pulled out of Chesterfield Reef at the end of hostilities. it ran off lead-acid batteries
with a petrol powered generator that stoked up when a reading was due. The whole thing was analogue, transmitting a coded signal on HF. One
feature was a fairly low frequency buzzer that shook the aneroid unit just before the pressure reading was taken. Another was a device that opened
the ventilation windows if the temperature in the hut rose too much.
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Re: Automatic Weather Stations ?

#13 Post by gimcrack »

Gordon Cooper wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:54 pm Thanks for the replies. They help to confirm my thinking that WOW is getting most input from MS based computers and that very little software has been written
for Linux users. I don't run an automatic myself, initially trained as a weatherman and still prefer to look out the window and see what is happening. I still empty
the raingauge and read max/min temperatures at 0900 as I did 70 + years ago.
MX has this system info tool, which also can do weather.

inxi -W 46052

I also like this terminal weather application as well.

curl wttr.in/Indianapolis

And currently have this one as alias

alias weather="weather-util --forecast 46052"

I rarely use any of these applications. I do about the same as you do look out the window or even go outside.

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Re: Automatic Weather Stations ?

#14 Post by JayM »

All of the amateur-level hobbyist weather stations I've seen have Windows-only software.

For my own private weather-forecasting needs I use the following websites:

https://www.wunderground.com as they (until being purchased by The Weather Channel at which point their forecasts started being less accurate) tend to have the most accurate forecasts, due in part to basing them on historical data from volunteers' personal weather stations (which require Windows)

https://weatherph.org/ particularly for their daily graphical satellite analysis which unlike normal weather forecasts explains why today's or tonight's weather is the way it is

http://www.stormsurf.com/mdls/menu_wx.html which has the only publicly-accessible weather computer forecast models that I've been able to find

http://typhoon2000.ph/ which is only useful when there's a storm or typhoon around the west Pacific area

https://www.data.jma.go.jp/mscweb/data/himawari/ which has close to real-time weather satellite photos of the entire SE Asia and Western Pacific regions (Thanks, Japan!), and lastly:

Going outside and looking around, or looking out the windows, and sniffing the air. I can usually tell if it's about to rain here, both by the clouds and by the humidity: it always feels a lot hotter just before it starts raining. Plus a bit of breeze will start.

I'm from western Washington State so I've learned to always know what the weather's going to be due to the number of rainy days per year we get there. That's important information if you actually want to leave your house and do anything.

BTW, do you know the difference between climate and weather? Climate is what you're promised. Weather is what you get.
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Re: Automatic Weather Stations ?

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JayM wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:41 am https://www.wunderground.com as they (until being purchased by The Weather Channel at which point their forecasts started being less accurate) tend to have the most accurate forecasts, due in part to basing them on historical data from volunteers' personal weather stations (which require Windows)
I've already mentioned WeeWX in this thread which I am using on Linux with a Davis weather station.

Here are a couple of features listed on the website:
Support for many popular weather stations;
Uploads to popular weather sites including WeatherUnderground, PWSweather.com, CWOP, WOW, and AWEKAS and others;
I've also mentioned other popular weather software that supports Linux, such as Weather Display and Cumulus MX, which also has the ability to upload to WU if I'm not mistaken. I believe some also work with Mac, such as WeatherLink for Davis stations, though I've read it's not as full featured on Mac.

How can we promote MX Linux as a viable OS to others if we start threads with the intent to show a limitation of Linux, and then discount all evidence to the contrary?

I believe a discussion on whether there is more or better software available for Windows may be an apt discussion, but I don't think we should tell people they have to stick with Windows when there is in fact software that may do what they wish.

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Re: Automatic Weather Stations ?

#16 Post by NevilsStation »

I'm not finding WeeWx in the Repository. Have you requested it be added?

http://weewx.com/downloads/

It supports a lot of weather stations in Linux ...

http://weewx.com/hardware.html
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#17 Post by expplane »

Weather is the day to day conditions; climate is the long tern average of weather. This leads to fake political "experts" to claim there is no global warming and it's a hoax.Their grand children will stomp on their graves yelling "why didn't you do something". Sad.

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expplane wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:07 pm Weather is the day to day conditions; climate is the long tern average of weather. This leads to fake political "experts" to claim there is no global warming and it's a hoax.Their grand children will stomp on their graves yelling "why didn't you do something". Sad.
Believe whatever you like. This isn't the thread for this ... I think there's an Off Topic area on the Forum.

Meanwhile, we're looking for MX Linux related answers to questions here ... sigh.
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Re: Automatic Weather Stations ?

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expplane wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:07 pm Weather is the day to day conditions; climate is the long tern average of weather. This leads to fake political "experts" to claim there is no global warming and it's a hoax.Their grand children will stomp on their graves yelling "why didn't you do something". Sad.
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Re: Automatic Weather Stations ?

#20 Post by JayM »

Climate is what you're promised. Weather is what you get. :smile:
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