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Nvidia pain once again

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Nvidia pain once again

#1 Post by markg116 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:50 am

Hi All,

I've been a loyal fan of MX Linux for about two years or so. A few months back I took a sabattical from MX Linux and decided to try a few other flavors of Linux. The last one I used was Linux Mint, which I liked but it was not right for my older pc. So, the other day I decided to get rid of Linux and come back to MX Linux so I downloaded the latest and greatest. I installed it and was excited because I know, or I could tell that the man behind MX Linux has been polishing up his distro and it looked absolutely beautiful. I started to install all my necessary software and copy my backed up stuff from my external hd. Then of course I downloaded Chromium and this is when problems ensued. Of course, this is not the first time I encountered this problem so I knew immediately it was a conflict with video drivers. Many websites where I watch videos do not play nice with the linux Nouveau drivers. So i went about installing the legacy drivers for my card which work out to be a 304xxx driver. I installed everything correctly and rebooted per instructions but here is where my headache began. When the os was booting up everything looked great and then I got what Ive come to call the blinking cursor of death. It was a steady blinking cursor in the upper left corner that wouldn't stop blinking. And, in fact, there was no way for me to get a terminal so I just rebooted. I reinstalled MX-17 and twice tried to install video drivers for my nvidia card. I tried installing from the main source and then from the backports. Both of them blew up on me and gave me the blinking cursor of death. I tried coming here earlier before I even installed the nvidia but my screen blew up on me as I was composing and I had to reboot. I dug through my dvd album of distros and I found a version of MX Linux from a little more than a year ago. It was MX-16. I installed this and pulled down all the updates. Rebooted and instlled the Nvidia drivers. When my machine booted I had all ten fingers and toes crossed and...whoila my pc came up perfectly. So tell me something. What has changed? Why can I installed MX Linux 16 on my pc along with the correct drivers for my video card but if I installed MX-17 it won't play nicely? I do have the 64 bit version of MX Linux installed. But, as I said, MX is playing nicely with me right now while I am using MX-16. My concern is that it won't if I try to upgrade to MX-17.

markymarkv@mx1:~

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.2 
           Distro: MX-16_x64 Metamorphosis 12 December 2016 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Acer product: ASE380/AST180/APM8 v: R01-B1 
           serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: Acer model: EM61SM/EM61PM serial: <root required> BIOS: Phoenix v: R01-B1 
           date: 06/15/2007 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ bits: 64 type: MCP 
           L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
           Speed: 1000 MHz min/max: 1000/2200 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1000 2: 1000 
Graphics:  Card-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] driver: nvidia v: 304.137 
           Display: server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: nvidia resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce 6150SE nForce 430/integrated/SSE2 v: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 304.137 
Audio:     Card-1: NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 
Network:   Card-1: Marvell 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet driver: sky2 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:19:21:53:1b:c5 
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 3.64 TiB used: 1.68 TiB (46.2%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM003-1ER162 size: 931.51 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sdf type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: External USB 3.0 size: 2.73 TiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 19.56 GiB used: 5.41 GiB (27.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6 
           ID-2: /home size: 174.66 GiB used: 21.47 GiB (12.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5 
Use of uninitialized value $gpu_temp in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/inxi line 12597.
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp:  C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 193 Uptime: 6h 02m Memory: 3.62 GiB used: 1.08 GiB (29.7%) Shell: bash 
           inxi: 3.0.10 

Any help you could offer me so I can upgrade to the latest and greatest would be great. Or will my pc eventually figure out that there is an newer update to this distro and pull it down? This is my concern.
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Re: Nvidia pain once again

#2 Post by fehlix » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:41 am

You havn't mentioned explicitly how did you have tried to install the nvidia driver.
Did you follow the procedure mentioned within the manual?
And a formal hint:
Would you mind editing your first post above, and wrap the inxi output
into the code-block tags [code] [/code] for better readability,
by marking your inxi-output and pressing the code-tag icon </> above the editor.
Thanks.
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Re: Nvidia pain once again

#3 Post by dolphin_oracle » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:04 am

well, just about everything imagineable changed between jessie and stretch (driver version, gcc, xorg stack, kernel...)

but I think your issue is probably something wrong with the xorg.conf file generated.

Its possible that you don't even need it though.

from the blinking cursor, hit cntrl+alt+f1 to get a full screen console login (like a terminal).

then

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ls /etc/X11/ |grep xorg.conf
if there is a xorg.conf (not xorg.conf.in or xorg.conf.d), then you should be able to safely remove the file and reboot.

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sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
since nvidia moved to KMS drivers, sometimes machines will work with xorg.conf file's, and sometimes they won't. This type of problem tends to happen with older parts that maybe are so quite well supported in the current drivers as they have been in the past.
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Re: Nvidia pain once again

#4 Post by markg116 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:44 pm

Dolphin Oracle, do you think I should upgrade to the latest and greatest and try again?

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Re: Nvidia pain once again

#5 Post by dolphin_oracle » Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:03 pm

markg116 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:44 pm
Dolphin Oracle, do you think I should upgrade to the latest and greatest and try again?
I would try to remove xorg.conf first. our installer creates it manually, and you'll get it no matter what set of drivers you try to install.

if you don't want to remove it, simply renaming is sufficient.

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sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
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#6 Post by markg116 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:14 pm

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#7 Post by markg116 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 4:40 pm

I feel like I'm in a loop. I did use the ctrl alt F1 command and made my way over to the X11 folder. I proceeded to delete the xorg.conf file and ended up with an ugly desktop again. I can boot up but cannot change the resolution so this window looks "HUGE" on my screen. lol. And, of course, Nvidia doesn't believe I'm using xorg.conf so it gives me this low res screen to type on. he he.

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#8 Post by dolphin_oracle » Tue Sep 11, 2018 7:21 pm

so I guess you need the xorg.conf file.

you should be able to add the resolutions your monitor supports to the xorg.conf file.

something like this perhaps.

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Section "Screen"
    Identifier    "Default Screen"
    Monitor        "Configured Monitor"
    Device        "Configured Video Device"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection "Display"
        Depth    24
        Modes     "1024x768" "800x600"
    EndSubSection
EndSection 
where modes are the resolutions you want.
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#9 Post by markg116 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:08 pm

Thanks my friend. I'm going to try to update this file right now and reboot. I'll keep my fingers crossed and report back.

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Re: Nvidia pain once again

#10 Post by PPC » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:22 am

Hi, please let me know if trying what as suggested really worked for you...
I have a partly similar problem (I started a thread called "Nvida driver problems in new install", but still no luck getting help... After installing the nvidea drivers I got a similar situation to what you report as ""I can boot up but cannot change the resolution so this window looks "HUGE" on my screen.". I had only 2 resolutions available, 640x480 or the one below that. I had to uninstall the driver to get a usable desktop again (and a bit cautious of trying random stuff and mess my work pc)...

EDIT: my problem solved itself (I don't know how- see my thread maybe it helps somehow...)

P.

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