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Loving MX Linux - Question about software?

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Post by diddyonlinux » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:58 pm

So I have been running MX Linux on my secondary. I have been mainly running Antergos Arch linux on my main laptop. What I like about Arch/Antergos is that the package I need tend to be found easily in the arch repo or the community repo(AUR). The last time I ran debain/ubuntu I would always have to deal with PPA and at times this would screw something up.

So far so good I have not had this problem on Arch. I can find even odd things on the repo like scanner drivers for an epson scanner. To a VDI client like Horizon View.

My question is for the MX Linux community is can this happen with MX Linux? This makes it extremely simple to manage my system when everything is in one place.

An example package that I recently looked for is flameshot and couldn't find it in the synaptics package manager.

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Re: Loving MX Linux - Question about software?

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Post by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:12 pm

diddyonlinux wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:58 pm
So I have been running MX Linux on my secondary. I have been mainly running Antergos Arch linux on my main laptop. What I like about Arch/Antergos is that the package I need tend to be found easily in the arch repo or the community repo(AUR). The last time I ran debain/ubuntu I would always have to deal with PPA and at times this would screw something up.

So far so good I have not had this problem on Arch. I can find even odd things on the repo like scanner drivers for an epson scanner. To a VDI client like Horizon View.

My question is for the MX Linux community is can this happen with MX Linux? This makes it extremely simple to manage my system when everything is in one place.

An example package that I recently looked for is flameshot and couldn't find it in the synaptics package manager.
we have a lot of stuff in our "test" repo, which is a repo of backported apps. the only reason they are in "test" is that we don't have enough feedback to move them to main.

your example of "flameshot" is in there. MX-PackageInstaller makes it easy to browse the various backport repos (ours and debians).

Is it as extensive as the AUR...probably not, nothing is, but it is more curated that the AUR, and it is pretty extensive, with stuff being added all the time.
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Re: Loving MX Linux - Question about software?

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Post by diddyonlinux » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:59 pm

Ok thanks for the reply. I did find flameshot later version in the backports.

Something I didn't find was flashrom. I have an older version and now as I try to use it I am being told I can use an older version.

So how to easily fix this? Looks like PPA is the only option.

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Post by manyroads » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:05 pm

Generally I'd say just say no to PPAs in Debian but if you must here's what the Debian folks tell you to do:
https://wiki.debian.org/CreatePackageFromPPA
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Post by Stevo » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:54 pm

The suggested procedure is to request that a packager build a newer version for the test repo before resorting to other measures, or to see if there's a distro-independent way to install, such as AppImage.

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Post by diddyonlinux » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:00 pm

Ok so that explains a few things for me. After using Arch for the last year and now trying to come back to debian base it just does't quite make as much sense anymore. Going to the packager for the test repo is great. What about for things that don't exist yet? What is the procedure around that?

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Post by manyroads » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:06 pm

diddyonlinux wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:00 pm
Ok so that explains a few things for me. After using Arch for the last year and now trying to come back to debian base it just does't quite make as much sense anymore. Going to the packager for the test repo is great. What about for things that don't exist yet? What is the procedure around that?
As an manjaro "refugee", I find the safety net of repo management here reassuring. I'm not certain what you mean when you say:
What about for things that don't exist yet? What is the procedure around that?
Would you clarify? [sarcasm]Oh and provide two examples of things that don't exist....[/sarcasm] :p Sorry I have perverse sense of humor. :bagoverhead:
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Re: Loving MX Linux - Question about software?

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Post by diddyonlinux » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:55 pm

gpmdp - Exists only as flatpak not sure this counts

Iscan for my EPSON v39 scanner - what is nice on arch is i just go to pamac and type v39 and hit install. I think epson may have drivers but I haven't searched yet. I believe maybe they can be downloaded and installed.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/isca ... n-gt-s650/


Brother print driver easy as typing 2710dw in pamac.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/brother-mfc-l2710dw/

Software that doesn't exist:

Vmware Horizon Client used for VDI connections:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/vmwa ... on-client/

Open Source Music Player - something I have been messing around with
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/omp/
https://www.openmusicplayer.com/about/

That is a few things I am challenged with from the switch. I think a few of them can be overcome by direct downloads from the manufacturer but that is like going back to Windows :). Just kidding there are a few others that I can't think of off the top of my had that I used in the past but don't use everyday. I just wiped my Antergos box yesterday to install pure Arch so I don't have everything on it that I ran into needing at one time or another.

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Re: Loving MX Linux - Question about software?

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Post by manyroads » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:05 pm

Not certain if this is your gpmdp ... https://github.com/MarshallOfSound/Goog ... _Debian.md
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Re: Loving MX Linux - Question about software?

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Post by timkb4cq » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:18 pm

Yes, the Epson scanner driver can be downloaded.
http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/du/02 ... a53c7c34de#
IANAL, but the license statement on the Epson website doesn't allow distribution of this so unless Arch managed to separate the gpl/lgpl bits from the Epson/Seiko proprietary bits, or pacman downloads it from Epson and presents the acceptance of the software license question, then Arch's offering it could be legally questionable. That's why we don't have it on our repos.
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