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Re: New Zealand Mirrors

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Post by asqwerth » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:38 am

I think it's not very fruitful to insist on using the mirror geographically closest to you, if you already know it's flaky or takes longer to sync with the main mirrors.

Why not just choose a reliable, respectably-fast, quick-syncing mirror even if it's far away?

For instance, if the HK mirrors hadn't been added (thanks, aledie!), I would have happily continued on with the Italy mirrors even though they are far away from me in terms of location. It doesn't have to have the absolute fastest download speed (closer mirrors might often be fastest), so long as it's fast enough.

A fast download speed doesn't help me if it's still using an outdated package list because the mirror hasn't synced the latest updates yet.
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Re: New Zealand Mirrors

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Post by Gordon Cooper » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:43 am

....mmmm. A bit strange. Using the box icon which was green, indicating an available update, I got this:
Update_14-1.png
Will look into this after dinner.
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Re: New Zealand Mirrors

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Post by aledie » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:52 am

@Gordon Cooper:
The strange thing is, your terminal above tries for example to update mx-repo-list from 19.1.2 to 19.1.3

While I just updated no problem from the same Mirror - see my output above, from 19.1.3 to 19.1.4

Did you do sudo apt update in the first place?
Or maybe you edited repository sources manually (or you chose it from mx-repo-manager) and made some little typo somewhere?
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Re: New Zealand Mirrors

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Post by aledie » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:03 am

asqwerth wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:38 am
I think it's not very fruitful to insist on using the mirror geographically closest to you, if you already know it's flaky or takes longer to sync with the main mirrors.
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@asqwerth: Maybe because this particular mirror updates every 4h from Princeton, which updates hourly from our master, what gives you max. 6h update window better than many others? Further it has two nodes in Auckland and Christchurch, 2Gbps bw upto 20Gbps under load, very responsive maintainer...

That it's flaky I wouldn't say, we just added it a week ago, and at least for me seems updating in this 5-6 h window. I could use it today no problem.

It's just when I give such an essay above, the local user would expect almost immediate updates after USA, which might take few more hours ... Anyway, Gordon will look maybe the problem isn't the mirror (as said I just upgraded from there)
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Re: New Zealand Mirrors

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Post by Gordon Cooper » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:15 pm

asqwerth wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:38 am
I think it's not very fruitful to insist on using the mirror geographically closest to you, if you already know it's flaky or takes longer to sync with the main mirrors.

Why not just choose a reliable, respectably-fast, quick-syncing mirror even if it's far away?

For instance, if the HK mirrors hadn't been added (thanks, aledie!), I would have happily continued on with the Italy mirrors even though they are far away from me in terms of location. It doesn't have to have the absolute fastest download speed (closer mirrors might often be fastest), so long as it's fast enough.

A fast download speed doesn't help me if it's still using an outdated package list because the mirror hasn't synced the latest updates yet.
The mirror I commented on is Christchurch/Auckland, which is not my nearest. I have been assisting aledie with promotion of the new mirrors in NZ,
hence my trial of Christchurch, and found a problem, which may or may not be a bug.

My nearest is the Debian mirror, only a few miles away from home, but it is flaky so I have been using Utah, and more recently
trialling Australia. In testing Christchurch I used the method used by many, a click on the icon in the panel. In this case it did
not function properly and I'm working to find the problem.
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Re: New Zealand Mirrors

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Post by Adrian » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:12 pm

Just a side remark beside the improvements in code, from MX-17 to MX-18 we went from a dozen mirrors to more than 100 because of aledie's push to get more mirrors (hopefully we'll calm down soon and stop adding mirrors because it becomes excessive) but it should be good news for remote places that have now a bit of options, New Zealand has a couple of mirrors we even got some mirrors in Australia. We'll figure out this kind of errors, sometimes it just takes a bit of time for the errors to clear up and mirrors to get in sync. Again, thank you aledie for your effort to get all these mirrors and of course thank you all the mirror providers.

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