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[Solved] Will this Ubuntu .deb work on MX?

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Re: Will this Ubuntu .deb work on MX?

#11 Post by Stevo » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:38 pm

Like Jerry, I was able to install and run the Debian 8 Trusty version without any problems. I say "go for it!" The Ubuntu 18 version is incompatible. Ignore their rather ignorant instructions (IMO) to use "dpkg -i" + "apt-get -f install", and just click the deb to use our default gdebi installer.

Odds are very, very low that it could break your system. Gdebi won't let you install incompatible debs, which "dpkg -i" will happily do, then users thrash around and break their systems trying to get "apt-get -f install" to work.

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Re: Will this Ubuntu .deb work on MX?

#12 Post by Toasted-Bagel » Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:49 pm

I would like to take a backup of my current system that will allow me to revert to this current "snapshot" so that I can attempt to install the risky .deb that we are discussing here and this way if it breaks something I can revert to the backup to go "back in time".

Which backup method is recommended to me? I am only familiar with Clonezilla or before I used to use Macrium backup on Windows (blasphemy, yes I know) because the Macrium on Windows would also backup Linux partitions.

I see this MX "snapshot" listed here but I dont really understand if that is the best way to accomplish what I am trying to do. :cat:

Update: I see there is Lucky backup......I attempted to use this program once when I was on Ubuntu but it created some sort of "circlular loop" and the backup never finished. I just want to back up the directory named /

The directory named forward-slash also contains /home but the /downloads and /documents sub-directories that are nested inside of it are actually symlinks that point to folders on a different partition. So understanding this we have the potential to create an infinite loop and Im not experienced enough to figure out what needs to be changed to make the backup work. Sigh. Damn these sym-links they make everything so complicated. But its the only way I know to share the contents of a /media partition with 2 different Linux distros (That is my current setup)

Update: Wow, you guys really are the nicest forum ever. To think that 2 people actually installed the dangerous file and risked destroying their systems (to help me out) is really impressive, My hat is off to you guys.

Update: I am running lucky backup and have excluded /home as well as /media. Correct me if this is not proper

Update: Ok, I def am doing something wrong (with lucky backup) because it copied 6 GB and only at 1% progress so certainly that is wrong because my entire root excluding the /home should be less than 10 GB. Im annoyed now and will have to wait for instructions from a forum member. Ignore the sdc1 (that is an external USB drive that I am using to backup things to it)

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$ df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev            3.9G     0  3.9G   0% /dev
tmpfs           793M  1.4M  791M   1% /run
/dev/sda6        19G  6.1G   12G  34% /
tmpfs           5.0M  4.0K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
tmpfs           1.6G  241M  1.4G  16% /run/shm
cgroup           12K     0   12K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs           793M   16K  793M   1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sda5        48G   11G   35G  24% /media/daka/b74d5c9c-fdf5-4c96-a604-435709eb3ce4
/dev/sdb3       2.7T  1.3T  1.4T  48% /media/sdb3
/dev/sdc1       2.8T  1.3T  1.5T  46% /media/daka/3 TB

sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for daka: 
Disk /dev/sda: 119.2 GiB, 128035676160 bytes, 250069680 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xd01391bb

Device     Boot     Start       End   Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *         2048   1126399   1124352  549M  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2         1126400 106706943 105580544 50.4G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3       106708990 250068366 143359377 68.4G  5 Extended
/dev/sda5       106708992 209354751 102645760   49G 83 Linux
/dev/sda6       209356800 250066943  40710144 19.4G 83 Linux


Disk /dev/sdb: 2.7 TiB, 3000592982016 bytes, 5860533168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: ED189161-68C5-42B2-8123-6EBFD2419B4C

Device          Start        End    Sectors  Size Type
/dev/sdb1          34     262177     262144  128M Microsoft reserved
/dev/sdb2  5829283840 5860532223   31248384 14.9G Linux swap
/dev/sdb3      264192 5829283839 5829019648  2.7T Linux filesystem

Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary.
Partition table entries are not in disk order.


Disk /dev/sdc: 2.7 TiB, 3000558944256 bytes, 732558336 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00028375

Device     Boot Start       End   Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdc1         256 732558335 732558080  2.7T  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

Dammit, that sdb3 should not be getting copied by lucky backup. Sigh. i thought by exclusing /media from the backup that it would not get copied over. Im over my head here. Should I create a seperate thread about "help me how to lucky backup?" Because this is going to be really complicated because of the darn symlinks.

My issue is that the /home directory has 5 symlinks inside of it that point to sdb3

/home/downloads
/home/documents
/home/pictures
/home/videos
/home/music

Those are all symlinks that point to folders inside of sdb3 (a separate partition)

Im going to need an Linux Expert to figure this one out. heh-heh

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Re: Will this Ubuntu .deb work on MX?

#13 Post by Stevo » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:06 pm

We do have Timeshift available in the main and test repos, which is supposed to create restore points, but I've never used it myself. The only thing I've done is to make a full backup with MX-snapshot, which is very simple to use. You can chose to save /home on a reinstall, so you could exclude that from the backup to save time and space, but sometimes it's better to have at least one backup of everything.

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Re: Will this Ubuntu .deb work on MX?

#14 Post by richb » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:10 pm

Stevo wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:06 pm
We do have Timeshift available in the main and test repos, which is supposed to create restore points, but I've never used it myself. The only thing I've done is to make a full backup with MX-snapshot, which is very simple to use. You can chose to save /home on a reinstall, so you could exclude that from the backup to save time and space, but sometimes it's better to have at least one backup of everything.
I agree. It is a very simple way to make a full backup.
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Re: Will this Ubuntu .deb work on MX?

#15 Post by Toasted-Bagel » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:57 am

The TimeShift worked very well, thank you.

Also the deb file worked just fine when I installed it with Gdebi.

I never had anything to worry about in the end.

/Closing this thread as solved

Thanks again for all the good advice and the assistance.

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Re: [Solved] Will this Ubuntu .deb work on MX?

#16 Post by Toasted-Bagel » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:44 pm

That Timeshift is such an amazing app. I cant believe I have been using linux for over 3 years and never even knew it existed. And was doing it "the long way" with CloneZilla and having to boot from the CloneZilla "Live USB stick" and so forth.

Great recommendation, thank you so much

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