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Re: Nov 10 updates - grub-pc

#41 Post by richb » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:00 pm

@fehlix

Completed all the steps and rebooted for good measure. I still get the same error. But I see no adverse effects other than that error. Synaptic loads without complaint and shows no upgrades available. All other Debian upgrades installed without complaint when first encountering this. The error shows when trying to upgrade via MX Updater or of course in the terminal.
Unless you have another idea I will just leave as is hoping no future other problems crop up. I am just unnerved by unexplained errors.
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Re: Nov 10 updates - grub-pc

#42 Post by fehlix » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:20 pm

richb wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:00 pm
@fehlix

Completed all the steps and rebooted for good measure. I still get the same error. But I see no adverse effects other than that error. Synaptic loads without complaint and shows no upgrades available. All other Debian upgrades installed without complaint when first encountering this. The error shows when trying to upgrade via MX Updater or of course in the terminal.
Unless you have another idea I will just leave as is hoping no future other problems crop up. I am just unnerved by unexplained errors.
To be clear you got with "apt-get install -f" and with "grub-install" an error?

And you checked /boot/efi/EFI is accessible?

What does

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sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
do? Will ir show errors?

You also missed to show the output of this long command ( just in case that's the culprit):

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sudo xxd -u -ps -l1 /sys/firmware/efi/vars/OsIndicationsSupported-8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c/data
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Re: Nov 10 updates - grub-pc

#43 Post by richb » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:30 pm

To be clear you got with "apt-get install -f" and with "grub-install" an error
yes


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sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is broken or not fully installed

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$ sudo xxd -u -ps -l1 /sys/firmware/efi/vars/OsIndicationsSupported-8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d-00e098032b8c/data
01
And you checked /boot/efi/EFI is accessible?
It is mounted if that is what you mean.
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Re: Nov 10 updates - grub-pc

#44 Post by fehlix » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:07 pm

richb wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:30 pm

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sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is broken or not fully installed
OK. Now: You can either leave your "old" grub and ignore furture dpkg warning. :eek:
or try to fix it. What I would do purge grub completely and reinistall grub.
What we know is that the missing mounted efi-partition was one show stopper.
The UEFI-hex-char-bug got not triggered in your system.
It might be reinstalling grub would clear things out.
Not knowing whether there are other little traps.
So no rush. Here for the record the packages invovled:

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grub-pc
grub-pc-bin
grub-common
grub2-common
grub-efi-amd64-bin
grub-efi-ia32-bin
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Re: Nov 10 updates - grub-pc

#45 Post by Protokol » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:12 pm

Hello,
with Mx I'm not scared when I see the green icon appear but ... I have already happened to mess up linux systems twice because of grub updates, so I'm freaking out a little bit... My Mx system is too awesome and running smoothly nowadays to mess with it... so I ignore the update for the moment :bagoverhead: and :crossfingers: and I'll wait until ... well... when I 'll be ready to fight the dragon ;)
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Re: Nov 10 updates - grub-pc

#46 Post by fehlix » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:30 pm

Protokol wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:12 pm
Hello,
with Mx I'm not scared when I see the green icon appear but ... I have already happened to mess up linux systems twice because of grub updates, so I'm freaking out a little bit... My Mx system is too awesome and running smoothly nowadays to mess with it... so I ignore the update for the moment :bagoverhead: and :crossfingers: and I'll wait until ... well... when I 'll be ready to fight the dragon ;)
Well you shall see Dolphin_Oracle Video, about our update today. https://youtu.be/sNh6RHSjnjo
There is not really much to be worried about. Some user didn't have never seen those confirmation screens, they did know what key to press.
And they didn't know to use the space-bar, tab and enter to confirm.
If you have not "messed" around with your system, have not used root-user to tweak on places you shouldn't.
and unmounted system partitions (e.g esp/efi partion) with "Disk Manager", or added/removed repos - you should not be worried.
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Re: Nov 10 updates - grub-pc

#47 Post by richb » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:35 pm

I will leave things as is and ignore the error, dealing with a known unknown rather than an unknown unknown by purging and re-installing.
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Re: Nov 10 updates - grub-pc

#48 Post by Eadwine Rose » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:19 am

Protokol wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:12 pm
Hello,
with Mx I'm not scared when I see the green icon appear but ... I have already happened to mess up linux systems twice because of grub updates, so I'm freaking out a little bit... My Mx system is too awesome and running smoothly nowadays to mess with it... so I ignore the update for the moment :bagoverhead: and :crossfingers: and I'll wait until ... well... when I 'll be ready to fight the dragon ;)
Don't worry, you're not alone! ;) *chuckle*
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Re: Nov 10 updates - grub-pc

#49 Post by Protokol » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:04 am

thanks Eadwine Rose and fehlix :number1:
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Re: Nov 10 updates - grub-pc

#50 Post by turtlebay777 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:25 am

Following a re-install I had 138 updates offered and, like many, panicked when the DOS style boxes about grub updates suddenly popped up. Not knowing what to do and no instructions on how to even control the box and there being no info in ABC language (-just techno gobbledy gook!) I deleted all options. Then when the updates had finished and mindful of the dire warnings about not being able to restart my computer I went into MX Boot Repair (from Whisker and MX Tools) and reinstalled the grub boot.
Fingers (and everything else crossed) I did a restart. Result, nothing offered on the black screen! After getting out my lump hammer to smash up the bloody stupid thing, I suddenly realised there was an external USB hard drive plugged in, computer was trying to boot off that. Unplugged it and now computer booted properly again - phew!

Question - when things like that are automaticlly mixed in with normal updates, why isn't there are warning and with instructions before one presses start? We are not all techy whizz kids with a Masters degree in Computing!

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