DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!
DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!
There is something about the new kernel upgrade that breaks the live system. I suspect the old kernel gets purged which removes all of its modules so your system gets crippled. Even if that is not the cause, something is causing a serious problem.
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Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!
I will change this to a sticky, that way it stays on top.
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Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!
If you did a remaster after the update then you should be able to get back to a working system with the "rollback" boot parameter. If you have root persistence enabled then you should be able to get back to a working system by disabling root persistence.
I realize this is not an ideal solution. We first have to identify the problem then we can work on figuring out a solution so you don't lose your changes.
If you do a "rollback" then your changes will be stored in a file called "linuxfs.bad" in the /live/boot-dev/antiX/ directory. Don't delete this file. Perhaps rename it.
If you had root persistence enabled then your changes will be stored in the file "rootfs" in the /live/boot-dev/antiX/ directory. Don't delete this file. I suggest you rename it if you want to re-enable root persistence and still be able to recover your changes later on.
I hope we can figure out how to save your changes. We got totally hosed by upstream on this.
I realize this is not an ideal solution. We first have to identify the problem then we can work on figuring out a solution so you don't lose your changes.
If you do a "rollback" then your changes will be stored in a file called "linuxfs.bad" in the /live/boot-dev/antiX/ directory. Don't delete this file. Perhaps rename it.
If you had root persistence enabled then your changes will be stored in the file "rootfs" in the /live/boot-dev/antiX/ directory. Don't delete this file. I suggest you rename it if you want to re-enable root persistence and still be able to recover your changes later on.
I hope we can figure out how to save your changes. We got totally hosed by upstream on this.
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Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!
Bump to keep on first page.
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FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.
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FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.
Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!
Just I noticed (send a message) two people to whom I have installed MX Linux. They are not ''specialists'' and barely visit this forum.
For sure there are many peoples that have installed MX Linux or have it from some one else and barely visit this forum. On these cases , Linux OS ,Debian or Mx Linux has taken in consideration this scenario ? Can updates/upgrades disabled form web site (repo website) to deny peoples that have not idea that something was wrong? If not.... please investigate and find a way for the next time . Would be very worthy. At least a message box or window screen that warn users.
For sure there are many peoples that have installed MX Linux or have it from some one else and barely visit this forum. On these cases , Linux OS ,Debian or Mx Linux has taken in consideration this scenario ? Can updates/upgrades disabled form web site (repo website) to deny peoples that have not idea that something was wrong? If not.... please investigate and find a way for the next time . Would be very worthy. At least a message box or window screen that warn users.
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Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!
Thanks for the heads-up ... everything copacetic here - did a bunch of upgrades & reboots
in the past 24/48 hrs - everything is AOK
Regards
Jack
in the past 24/48 hrs - everything is AOK
Regards
Jack
Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!
I must be the lucky one :lipsrsealed: I have 3 laptops with MX installed, fully updated and no problems anywhere, 3 persistence live usb's fully updated and all is well. I hope the fix for those having problems doesn't do the opposite and break my systems.
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Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!
Perhaps consider using the Debian stable kernel by default and only install a newer version if the hardware requires it?
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Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!
So this is with a Live or Persistent install only?
I have the upgrade from a few days ago with a full install and notice no issues. However, I tried both the 5. antix and Liquorix kernels and could not maintain wireless stability with either. Not sure if related but I put it out there just in case it helps. Also this is a ~week old fresh install MX18.3.
eriefisher
I have the upgrade from a few days ago with a full install and notice no issues. However, I tried both the 5. antix and Liquorix kernels and could not maintain wireless stability with either. Not sure if related but I put it out there just in case it helps. Also this is a ~week old fresh install MX18.3.
eriefisher
Re: DO NOT UPGRADE LIVE SYSTEMS WITH PERSISTENCE OR REMASTER!
It's with the 4.19 kernel from upstream Debian.eriefisher wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:13 pm So this is with a Live or Persistent install only?
I have the upgrade from a few days ago with a full install and notice no issues. However, I tried both the 5. antix and Liquorix kernels and could not maintain wireless stability with either. Not sure if related but I put it out there just in case it helps. Also this is a ~week old fresh install MX18.3.
eriefisher
If you have Nvidia graphics, also be cautious.
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Clevo N130WU-based Ultrabook: Intel i7-8550U (Kaby Lake R), 16GB RAM, Intel integrated graphics (UEFI)
ASUS X42D laptop: AMD Phenom II, 6GB RAM, Mobility Radeon HD 5400