(CLOSED) Cannot open locally stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2

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(CLOSED) Cannot open locally stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2

#1 Post by IAMSOANGRY »

I am unable to open locally stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2 . When I try to open (e.g.) /home/bill/Documents/genki/2 START HERE (for mac and linux).html with firefox, or Chromium or Chrome, the text "MENU" is shown in the tab and only a yellow backgound in the browser window. I see this in this "url" in the address window

file:///home/bill/Documents/genki/2STARTHERE(ForMac&Linux).html

I have tried starting firefox in safemode, editing the file name to something less elaborate i.e. no brackets or spaces and using the "Local Filesystem Links plugin" to no avail. I booted my PC from an old Linux Format cd and launched Antix 17 where the the html "application" launched perfectly as it did from Peppermint 8 on the same cd. My "educated" guess is that as the version of firefox on my MX install is newer than the browsers on those two distro's, Firefox Version 64.0.2 has upped the security and will not allow "file///" html files to run?

Please can/will someone provide an answer as I have been trawling the web for one all day and the person I am trying to help has gone back to I.E./Edge (I thought Edge was a guitarist in U2?) on W10, another Linux convert fail!

system info. gleaned from MXTools quick system info attached in fred.txt., "amusingly" the file had .html in the file name and firefox wouldn't let me attach it as it was an html file. :bawling:

Further to this I tried to use the inxi -h command as advised in the "System specs when asking for help" post, but only get inxi man page which shows no -h information?!?
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Re: Cannot open loaclly stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2

#2 Post by Richard »

Well, that's a bummer for sure.

Starting with, inxi -h in a user console, I get:

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$ inxi -h
inxi supports the following options. You can combine these or list them one by one. For more detailed information, see 
man inxi. Examples: inxi -v4 -c6 OR inxi -bDc 6. If you start inxi with no arguments, it will display a short system summary. 

The following options, if used without -F, -b, or -v, will show option line(s): A, B, C, D, G, I, M, N, P, R, S, W, d, f, i, l, 
m, n, o, p, r, s, t, u, w, --slots, --usb - you can use these alone or together to show just the line(s) you want to see. If 
you use them with -v [level], -b or -F, inxi will combine the outputs. 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
Output Control Options:
 -a, --admin          Adds advanced sys admin data (only works with verbose or line output, not short form):
                         -C  If available: CPU vulnerabilities (bugs); family, model-id, stepping - format: hex (decimal) if 
                             greater than 9, otherwise hex; microcode - format: hex. 
                         -d  If available: logical and physical block sizes.
                      -p,-P  If available: raw size of partition, percent available for user, block size of file system (root 
                             required); for swap, shows swapiness and vfs cache pressure, and if values are default or not. 
 -A, --audio          Audio/sound card(s), driver, sound server.
 -b, --basic          Basic output, short form. Same as inxi -v 2.
 -B, --battery        System battery info, including charge and condition, plus extra info (if battery present).
 -c, --color          Set color scheme (0-42). For piped or redirected output, you must use an explicit color selector. 
                      Example: inxi -c 11 
                      Color selectors let you set the config file value for the selection (NOTE: IRC and global only show safe 
                      color set) 
                         94  Console, out of X
                         95  Terminal, running in X - like xTerm
                         96  Gui IRC, running in X - like Xchat, Quassel, Konversation etc.
                         97  Console IRC running in X - like irssi in xTerm
                         98  Console IRC not in X
                         99  Global - Overrides/removes all settings. Setting specific removes global.
 -C, --cpu            CPU output, including per CPU clock speed and max CPU speed (if available).
 -d, --disk-full, --optical
                      Optical drive data (and floppy disks, if present). Triggers -D.
 -D, --disk           Hard Disk info, including total storage and details for each disk. Disk total used percentage includes 
                      swap partition size(s). 
 -f, --flags          All CPU flags. Triggers -C. Not shown with -F to avoid spamming.
 -F, --full           Full output. Includes all Upper Case line letters except -W, plus -s and -n. Does not show extra verbose 
                      options such as -d -f -i -l -m -o -p -r -t -u -x, unless specified. 
 -G, --graphics       Graphics info (card(s), driver, display protocol (if available), display server, resolution, renderer, 
                      OpenGL version). 
 -i, --ip             WAN IP address and local interfaces (requires ifconfig or ip network tool). Triggers -n. Not shown with 
                      -F for user security reasons. You shouldn't paste your local/WAN IP. 
 -I, --info           General info, including processes, uptime, memory, IRC client or shell type, inxi version.
 -l, --label          Partition labels. Triggers -P. For full -p output, use -pl.
 -m, --memory         Memory (RAM) data. Requires root. Numbers of devices (slots) supported and individual memory devices 
                      (sticks of memory etc). For devices, shows device locator, size, speed, type (e.g. DDR3). If neither -I 
                      nor -tm are selected, also shows RAM used/total. 
 -M, --machine        Machine data. Device type (desktop, server, laptop, VM etc.), motherboard, BIOS and, if present, system 
                      builder (e.g. Lenovo). Shows UEFI/BIOS/UEFI [Legacy]. Older systems/kernels without the required /sys 
                      data can use dmidecode instead, run as root. Dmidecode can be forced with --dmidecode 
 -n, --network-advanced
                      Advanced Network card info. Triggers -N. Shows interface, speed, MAC id, state, etc. 
 -N, --network        Network card(s), driver.
 -o, --unmounted      Unmounted partition info (includes UUID and Label if available). Shows file system type if you have lsblk 
                      installed (Linux) or, for BSD/GNU Linux, if 'file' installed and you are root or if you have added to 
                      /etc/sudoers (sudo v. 1.7 or newer). 
                      Example:  <username> ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/file 
 -p, --partitions-full
                      Full partition information (-P plus all other detected partitions).
 -P, --partitions     Basic partition info. Shows, if detected: / /boot /home /opt /tmp /usr /usr/home /var /var/log /var/tmp. 
                      Use -p to see all mounted partitions. 
 -r, --repos          Distro repository data. Supported repo types: APK, APT, EOPKG, PACMAN, PACMAN-G2, PISI, PORTAGE, PORTS 
                      (BSDs), SLACKPKG, TCE, URPMQ, XBPS, YUM/ZYPP. 
 -R, --raid           RAID data. Shows RAID devices, states, levels, and components. md-raid: If device is resyncing, also 
                      shows resync progress line. 
 -s, --sensors        Sensors output (if sensors installed/configured): mobo/CPU/GPU temp; detected fan speeds. GPU temp only 
                      for Fglrx/Nvidia drivers. Nvidia shows screen number for > 1 screen. IPMI sensors if present. 
     --slots          PCI slots: type, speed, status. Requires root.
 -S, --system         System info: host name, kernel, desktop environment (if in X/Wayland), distro.
 -t, --processes      Processes. Requires extra options: c (CPU), m (memory), cm (CPU+memory). If followed by numbers 1-x, 
                      shows that number of processes for each type (default: 5; if in IRC, max: 5). 
                      Make sure that there is no space between letters and numbers (e.g. -t cm10).
     --usb            Show USB data: Hubs and Devices.
 -u, --uuid           Partition UUIDs. Triggers -P. For full -p output, use -pu.
 -v, --verbosity      Set inxi verbosity level (0-8). Should not be used with -b or -F. Example: inxi -v 4
                          0  Same as: inxi
                          1  Basic verbose, -S + basic CPU + -G + basic Disk + -I.
                          2  Networking card (-N), Machine (-M), Battery (-B; if present), and, if present, basic RAID (devices 
                             only; notes if inactive). Same as inxi -b 
                          3  Advanced CPU (-C), battery (-B), network (-n); triggers -x. 
                          4  Partition size/used data (-P) for (if present) /, /home, /var/, /boot. Shows full disk data (-D). 
                          5  Audio card (-A), sensors (-s), memory/RAM (-m), partition label (-l), UUID (-u), short form of 
                             optical drives, standard RAID data (-R). 
                          6  Full partition (-p), unmounted partition (-o), optical drive (-d), USB (--usb), full RAID; 
                             triggers -xx. 
                          7  Network IP data (-i); triggers -xxx.
                          8  Everything available, including repos (-r), processes (-tcm), PCI slots (--slots).
 -w, --weather        Local weather data/time. To check an alternate location, see -W.
 -W, --weather-location
                      [location] Supported options for [location]: postal code; city, state/country; latitude, longitude. Only 
                      use if you want the weather somewhere other than the machine running inxi. Use only ASCII characters, 
                      replace spaces in city/state/country names with '+'. Example: inxi -W new+york,ny 
     --weather-unit   Set weather units to metric (m), imperial (i), metric/imperial (mi), or imperial/metric (im).
 -x, --extra          Adds the following extra data (only works with verbose or line output, not short form):
                         -A  Specific vendor/product information (if relevant); PCI Bus ID/USB ID number of card; 
                             Version/port(s)/driver version (if available). 
                         -B  Vendor/model, status (if available); attached devices (e.g. wireless mouse, keyboard, if present).
                         -C  CPU flags, Bogomips on CPU; CPU microarchitecture + revision (if found, or unless --admin, then 
                             shows as 'stepping'). 
                         -d  Extra optical drive features data; adds rev version to optical drive.
                         -D  HDD temp with disk data if you have hddtemp installed, if you are root, or if you have added to 
                             /etc/sudoers (sudo v. 1.7 or newer). Example: <username> ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/hddtemp 
                         -G  Specific vendor/product information (if relevant); PCI Bus ID/USB ID number of card; Direct 
                             rendering status (in X); Screen number GPU is running on (Nvidia only). 
                         -i  For IPv6, show additional scope addresses: Global, Site, Temporary, Unknown. See --limit for large 
                             counts of IP addresses. 
                         -I  Default system GCC. With -xx, also shows other installed GCC versions. If running in shell, not in 
                             IRC client, shows shell version number, if detected. Init/RC type and runlevel (if available). 
                         -m  Max memory module size (if available), device type.
                         -N  Specific vendor/product information (if relevant); PCI Bus ID/USB ID number of card; 
                             Version/port(s)/driver version (if available). 
                         -R  md-raid: second RAID Info line with extra data: blocks, chunk size, bitmap (if present). Resync 
                             line, shows blocks synced/total blocks. Hardware RAID driver version, bus ID. 
                         -s  Basic voltages (ipmi, lm-sensors if present): 12v, 5v, 3.3v, vbat.
                         -S  Kernel gcc version; system base of distro (if relevant and detected)
                         -t  Adds memory use output to CPU (-xt c), and CPU use to memory (-xt m).
                      --usb  For Device: driver.
                      -w -W  Wind speed and direction, humidity, pressure, and (-w only) time zone.
-xx, --extra 2        Show extra, extra data (only works with verbose or line output, not short form):
                         -A  Chip vendor:product ID for each audio device.
                         -B  Serial number, voltage now/minimum (if available).
                         -C  L1/L3 cache (if root and dmidecode installed).
                         -D  Disk transfer speed; NVMe lanes; Disk serial number.
                         -G  Chip vendor:product ID for each video card; OpenGL compatibility version, if free drivers and 
                             available; compositor (experimental); alternate Xorg drivers (if available). Alternate means 
                             driver is on automatic driver check list of Xorg for the card vendor, but is not installed on 
                             system. 
                         -I  Other detected installed gcc versions (if present). System default runlevel. Adds parent program 
                             (or tty) for shell info if not in IRC. Adds Init version number, RC (if found). 
                         -m  Manufacturer, part number; single/double bank (if found).
                         -M  Chassis info, BIOS ROM size (dmidecode only), if available.
                         -N  Chip vendor:product ID.
                         -R  md-raid: Superblock (if present), algorithm. If resync, shows progress bar. Hardware RAID Chip 
                             vendor:product ID. 
                         -s  DIMM/SOC voltages (ipmi only).
                         -S  Display manager (dm) in desktop output (e.g. kdm, gdm3, lightdm); active window manager if 
                             detected; desktop toolkit, if available (Xfce/KDE/Trinity only). 
                    --slots  Slot length.
                      --usb  Vendor:chip ID.
                      -w -W  Wind chill, dew point, heat index, if available.
-xxx, --extra 3       Show extra, extra, extra data (only works with verbose or line output, not short form):
                         -A  Serial number.
                         -B  Chemistry, cycles, location (if available).
                         -C  CPU boost (turbo) enabled/disabled, if present.
                         -D  Firmware rev. if available; partition scheme, in some cases; disk rotation speed (if detected).
                         -G  Compositor version (if detectable).
                         -I  For 'Shell:' adds ([su|sudo|login]) to shell name if present; for 'running in:' adds (SSH) if SSH 
                             session. 
                         -m  Width of memory bus, data and total (if present and greater than data); Detail for Type, if 
                             present; module voltage, if available; serial number. 
                         -N  Serial number.
                         -R  zfs-raid: portion allocated (used) by RAID devices/arrays. md-raid: system md-raid support types 
                             (kernel support, read ahead, RAID events). Hardware RAID rev, ports, specific vendor/product 
                             information. 
                         -S  Panel/tray/bar/dock info in desktop output, if in X (like lxpanel, xfce4-panel, mate-panel); (if 
                             available) dm version number, window manager version number. 
                      --usb  For Device: serial number (if present), interface count; USB speed.
                      -w -W  Location (uses -z/irc filter), weather observation time, altitude (shows extra lines for data 
                             where relevant). 
 -y, --width          Output line width max (integer >= 80). Overrides IRC/Terminal settings or actual widths. 
                      Example: inxi -y 130 
 -z, --filter         Adds security filters for IP/MAC addresses, serial numbers, location (-w), user home directory name. 
                      Default on for IRC clients. 
 -Z, --filter-override
                      Absolute override for output filters. Useful for debugging networking issues in IRC, for example.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
Additional Options:
 -h, --help           This help menu.
     --recommends     Checks inxi application dependencies + recommends, and directories, then shows what package(s) you need 
                      to install to add support for that feature. 
 -V, --version        Prints inxi version info then exits.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
Advanced Options:
     --alt            Trigger for various advanced options:
                         40  Bypass Perl as a downloader option.
                         41  Bypass Curl as a downloader option.
                         42  Bypass Fetch as a downloader option.
                         43  Bypass Wget as a downloader option.
                         44  Bypass Curl, Fetch, and Wget as downloader options. Forces Perl if HTTP::Tiny present.
     --display        [:[0-9]] Try to get display data out of X (default: display 0).
     --dmidecode      Force use of dmidecode data instead of /sys where relevant (e.g. -M, -B).
     --downloader     Force inxi to use [curl|fetch|perl|wget] for downloads.
     --host           Turn on hostname for -S.
     --indent-min     Set point where inxi autowraps line starters.
     --limit          [-1; 1-x] Set max output limit of IP addresses for -i (default 10; -1 removes limit).
     --no-host        Turn off hostname for -S. Useful if showing output from servers etc.
     --no-ssl         Skip SSL certificate checks for all downloader actions (Wget/Fetch/Curl only).
     --output         [json|screen|xml] Change data output type. Requires --output-file if not screen.
     --output-file    [Full filepath|print] Output file to be used for --output.
     --partition-sort [dev-base|fs|id|label|percent-used|size|uuid|used] Change sort order of partition output. See man page 
                      for specifics. 
     --sleep          [0-x.x] Change CPU sleep time, in seconds, for -C (default: 0.35). Allows system to catch up and show a 
                      more accurate CPU use. Example: inxi -Cxxx --sleep 0.15 
     --tty            Forces irc flag to false. Useful for running Ansible or Chef. Must use -y [width] option if you want a 
                      specific output width. Always put this option first in an option list. 
     --usb-sys        Force USB data to use /sys as data source (Linux only).
     --usb-tool       Force USB data to use lsusb as data source (Linux only).
     --wm             Force wm: to use wmctrl as data source. Default uses ps.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
Debugging Options:
     --debug          Triggers debugging modes.
                        1-3  On screen debugger output.
                         10  Basic logging.
                         11  Full file/system info logging.
                      The following create a tar.gz file of system data, plus inxi output. To automatically upload debugger 
                      data tar.gz file to ftp.techpatterns.com: inxi --debug 21 
                         20  Full system data collection: /sys; xorg conf and log data, xrandr, xprop, xdpyinfo, glxinfo etc.; 
                             data from dev, disks, partitions, etc. 
                         21  Upload debugger dataset to inxi debugger server automatically, removes debugger data directory, 
                             leaves tar.gz debugger file. 
                         22  Upload debugger dataset to inxi debugger server automatically, removes debugger data directory and 
                             debugger tar.gz file. 
     --debug-proc     Force debugger parsing of /proc as sudo/root.
     --debug-proc-print
                      To locate file that /proc debugger hangs on.
     --debug-no-exit  Skip exit on error to allow completion.
     --debug-no-proc  Skip /proc debugging in case of a hang.
     --debug-no-sys   Skip /sys debugging in case of a hang.
     --debug-sys      Force PowerPC debugger parsing of /sys as sudo/root.
     --debug-sys-print
                      To locate file that /sys debugger hangs on.
     --ftp            Use with --debugger 21 to trigger an alternate FTP server for upload. Format: [ftp.xx.xx/yy]. Must 
                      include a remote directory to upload to. Example: inxi --debug 21 --ftp ftp.myserver.com/incoming 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
ri
Makes me wonder if maybe you got a bad download.
Did the MD5SUM check OK?

Can you open the *.html in Thunar?
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Re: Cannot open loaclly stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2

#3 Post by Jerry3904 »

Here's an info source: Users Manual, Section 3.8.10, "Default Applications"
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Re: Cannot open loaclly stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2

#4 Post by IAMSOANGRY »

Hi,

Thanks for your prompt reply.

D'oh, inxi -h = inxi --help. Erm, please ignore my comment re inxi -h; please! :bagoverhead:

Opening the .html file in Thunar opens that file in Firefox where I see the page I described, i.e. just a yellow browser window with the text "MENU" in the tab.

My MX18 is an updated MX17 obtained by following D.O's guide to updating to MX18, so no md5 errors relevant in this instance.

An old version of antix17 with firefox and Peppermint8 (eugh Ubuntu) runs the .html file with no problems thus I assume the problem is to do with the browser version as I see the same problem with any of the browsers I install from the MX tools "Package Installer". Yes I know, never assume, always check. :frown:

Thanks again.

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Re: Cannot open loaclly stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2

#5 Post by Jerry3904 »

Opening the .html file in Thunar opens that file in Firefox where I see the page I described, i.e. just a yellow browser window with the text "MENU" in the tab.
Did you follow the iinstructions I linked to?
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Re: Cannot open loaclly stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2

#6 Post by anticapitalista »

antiX ships with firefox-esr. Can you install that on MX and give it a try?
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Re: Cannot open loaclly stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2

#7 Post by IAMSOANGRY »

Hi,
Sorry, I missed your post re. default app's. .html files are set to open with firefox by default. I have tried setting .html files to open with whatever browser I have installed from the MX tools package installer. they all come up the same.
I have added a screenshot of what I see on the browser, don't know if it helps?

screenshot.png
The url has file/// then the path to the file. It doesn't matter which locally stored .html file I use I only see the screen above. Whilst browsing the web re. this problem I read that there should be five forward slashes not three, but failed to understand the relevance, not saying it is irrelevant but that I don't understand the relevance. Now I'm rambling sorry.

Thanks.
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Re: Cannot open loaclly stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2

#8 Post by IAMSOANGRY »

Hi,
As suggested by anticapitalista, I loaded Firefox-esr 60.4.0esr, but still cannot open any .html files in that browser.

I then ran antiX from a live CD and .html files loaded with no issues in Firefox-esr 54.4.0esr. Following an update to the live antiX, Firefox-esr 60.4.0esr was installed and would not load any .html file.

This means, I think, that a security enhancement to Firefox based (and Chrome) browsers will not allow locally stored .html files to be loaded. As I said I browsed Mozilla Firefox support pages and the only suggestions were to run in safe mode or to install the local-file extension, neither of which made any difference.

Am I the only person "enjoying" this "feature" of Firefox? I know that it is not an MX issue but I had rather hoped that someone on the forum may have bumped heads with this browser issue and been able to resolve it. :frown:

Thanks

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Re: Cannot open loaclly stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2

#9 Post by Jerry3904 »

For the second time: did you try changing the Preferred Application type for html files? I'll paste it out of the Users Manual if that helps:
Many defaults for specific file types are set during an application’s installation. But often multiple options exist for a given file type, and a user would like to determine which application would launch the file—such as the music player to open an *.mp3 file. A simple method exists to make that change.
• Right-click any example of the file type you are interested in
• Make one of the following selections:
• Open with <listed application>. This will open the file with the selected application for this particular instance, but will not affect the default application.
• Open with Other Application. Scroll down the list to highlight the one you want (including “Use a custom command”), then check Open. The box at the bottom “Use as default for this kind of file” is unchecked by default, so check it if you want your selection to become the new default application that is launched when you click on any file of that particular type. Keep it unchecked for one-time usage.
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Re: Cannot open loaclly stored .html files in Firefox Version 64.0.2

#10 Post by IAMSOANGRY »

Hi Jerry 3904,
Sorry if I am frustrating you, but I thought that I had answered that question in a previous post (#7) where I wrote:-

"Sorry, I missed your post re. default app's, .html files are set to open with firefox by default. I have tried setting .html files to open with whatever browser I have installed from the MX tools package installer. they all come up the same". Is there another application apart from a web browser that will open .html files? I hope that is not a stupid question!

I further explained to anticapitalista what else I have found in post #8

Thanks for your help with this.

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