Welcome!

The kernel problem with recent updates has been solved. Find the solution here

Important information
-- Required MX 15/16 Repository Changes
-- Information on torrent hosting changes
-- Information on MX15/16 GPG Keys
-- Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities

News
-- Introducing our new Website
-- MX Linux on social media: here

Current releases
-- MX-18.3 Point Release release info here
-- Migration Information to MX-18 here
-- antiX-17.4.1 release info here

New users
-- Please read this first, and don't forget to add system and hardware information to posts!
-- Here are the Forum Rules

[solved] New motherboard and i can not login MX 17.1

User avatar
postcd
Forum Novice
Forum  Novice
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:02 pm

[solved] New motherboard and i can not login MX 17.1

#1

Post by postcd » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:51 pm

Hello,

i replaced my motherboard to become Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev 1.1 socket 775
Previously it was socket 771 motherboard G31M ES2L rev. 2.0. CPU stays same, it has some reduction on it and it works after i cut some parts of the socket.
I am running dual boot, WIndows re-detected all hardware and reinstalled drivers, but in MX 17.1 i have problem:

MX+systemd boot, but when i mouse click on login screen, the mouse and keyboard stop responding (i tried without mouse, different keyboard, no luck) and HDD led is nonstop lighting (when keyb, mouse not responding), without me listening any HDD activity.
When i not click mouse the mouse cursor moves nice, i start typing password, it type nothing, mouse still moves. i tried various keyboard shortcuts like Strl+(Shift)+F1,2,3,4,5. I can use Tab to move login fields, but it dos not type password and mouse clicking cause mouse frozen.

When i boot MX without systemd it not boot even into login menu.

I tried Liquorix kernel and default (non systemd) boots to login menu, but same problem as with MX+systemd (can not login)

Liquorix with systemd not boot into login menu, but shows black screen and repeats messages like: ATA7.00 ; Failed command: READ DMA EXT ; TIMEOUT ; DRDY

----

What is the easiest way to make MX working again after motherboard change? I do not want to loose any modifications i made to my installation. What i do not want to hear is to reinstall, because i do not want to spend time figuring out how to backup various settings i changes and such. I actualy do not have GUI access because can not login as mentioned. I am rather Linux GUI noob user, not a Linux advanced user.

----

SOLUTION: in BIOS i switched SATA/IDE ctrl mode to AHCI and ICH SATA control mode also. It was IDE and on previous motherboard i had it probably set at AHCI (when i installed MX Linux on old motherboard).
Last edited by postcd on Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:59 am, edited 2 times in total.
OS: MXLinux GPU: AMD Radeon RX 560 ; full HW specs. as of 1/2019

User avatar
Stevo
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 19823
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:07 pm

Re: New motherboard and i can not login MX 17.1

#2

Post by Stevo » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:58 pm

What does "System Information" report from the MX 17.1 Live Session, if it boots?

One thing to consider is that if the hardware is really new, MX 17 may not support it out of the box--something we tried to fix with MX 18.

User avatar
BitJam
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 3345
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:36 pm

Re: New motherboard and i can not login MX 17.1

#3

Post by BitJam » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:08 pm

If possible, I suggest you try booting live media (live-usb or live-dvd). You needed to do this when you initially installed MX-17.1 The live system is designed to adapt itself to new hardware. The installed system isn't. I'm not surprised that an installed system fails to run properly on different hardware.

Again, I think the first step is to try to boot your live media on the new system. If it works properly then we might be able to help you figure out how to modify your installed system to make it work. There also might be ways to save your customizations and add them to a new install.

Another thing to try is to use the boot parameter "3" in your bootloader (use "e" to edit an entry). This will take you to a console and won't launch a GUI. You can see if this works or if it locks up. One other thing to try is to use "nomodeset 3". See if that works without freezing up. If you can get to the command line on your installed system and the live system boots and works then I think we can help you fix the problem.

Summary:

1) See if the live media still works
2) Try to boot the installed system into command line mode and see if that works

Further instructions will depend on whether these two things work or not. Maybe someone else has better ideas but I think these two things are pretty easy, even for a novice.
Will I cry when it's all over?
When I die will I see Heaven?

User avatar
Eadwine Rose
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 8902
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:10 am

Re: New motherboard and i can not login MX 17.1

#4

Post by Eadwine Rose » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:06 pm

OH now that sounds an awful way too much like the issue I was having where I could not get past the login screen and I needed to remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get past it.


Only developers can access this link: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 39#p472939
this is a link to the thread where I first reported this issue, the link itself goes to the post where I describe the solution and post #37 is on a different install with the same issue and same solution.


ctrl alt f1 got me to the CLI, then went to root, removed xorg.conf, went back into user mode, typed startx and BAM I was on my desktop.

Now don't do that right off the bat! To those in the know, is there a way to temporarily remove the xorg.conf file from view using that cli and then put it back after, just for testing purposes?
MX-18.3_x64 May 26 2019 * 4.19.0-5-amd64 ext4 Xfce 4.12.3 * 8-core AMD Ryzen 7 2700
Asus TUF B450-Plus Gaming UEFI * Asus GTX 1050 Ti Nvidia 390.116 * 2x16Gb DDR4 2666 Kingston HyperX Predator
Samsung 860EVO * Samsung S24D330 & P2250 * HP Envy5030

User avatar
BitJam
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 3345
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:36 pm

Re: New motherboard and i can not login MX 17.1

#5

Post by BitJam » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:03 am

Eadwine Rose wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:06 pm
To those in the know, is there a way to temporarily remove the xorg.conf file from view using that cli and then put it back after, just for testing purposes?

Code: Select all

sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.save
or

Code: Select all

cd /etc/X11
sudo mv xorg.conf xorg.save
If you booted into command line mode with the "3" boot parameter then you can try starting X with:

Code: Select all

sudo telinit 5
Will I cry when it's all over?
When I die will I see Heaven?

User avatar
Eadwine Rose
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 8902
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:10 am

Re: New motherboard and i can not login MX 17.1

#6

Post by Eadwine Rose » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:11 am

What is the command to move it back again to the way things were? Or am I so CLI impaired that I missed that?


I do hope Postcd is willing to try this, I am very curious.
MX-18.3_x64 May 26 2019 * 4.19.0-5-amd64 ext4 Xfce 4.12.3 * 8-core AMD Ryzen 7 2700
Asus TUF B450-Plus Gaming UEFI * Asus GTX 1050 Ti Nvidia 390.116 * 2x16Gb DDR4 2666 Kingston HyperX Predator
Samsung 860EVO * Samsung S24D330 & P2250 * HP Envy5030

User avatar
BitJam
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 3345
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:36 pm

Re: New motherboard and i can not login MX 17.1

#7

Post by BitJam » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:40 am

Eadwine Rose wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:11 am
What is the command to move it back again to the way things were? Or am I so CLI impaired that I missed that?

Code: Select all

cd /etc/X11
sudo mv xorg.save xorg.conf
Will I cry when it's all over?
When I die will I see Heaven?

User avatar
postcd
Forum Novice
Forum  Novice
Posts: 82
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:02 pm

Re: New motherboard and i can not login MX 17.1

#8

Post by postcd » Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:55 am

BitJam wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:40 am
Stevo wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:58 pm
...

Hello, OP here, i taken a photo of your comments, rebooted and tried my best to do what you said.

I tried MX17 with and without systemd and also with "nomodeset 3" (edited the boot entry using "e" key, then append nomodeset 3 to the line that appeared like main boot line that included grub or such)

There was three scenarios that happened:

1. not booted to GUI login menu, instead it got stuck at message: Setting battery charge tresholds ... DONE
and HDD led was ligting without i hearing HDD to work.

2. booted to GUI login menu, but when i did advised command Ctrl+Alt+F1 (to go to terminal), it caused the GUI login session to freeze (no mouse cursor, keyboard numlock not working.)
Note the command to return to GUI mode is Ctrl+Alt+F7

3. i was able to enter terminal login session, but when i entered username (my username or root) and hit enter, it did nothing and then timeout:
mxlinux-login-120s-timeout.jpg
In runlevel 3 i also seen boot failure like this:
mxlinux-after-motherboard-change-runlevel3.jpg
(i mean it stuck at this point)

4. i booted from MX 17.1 live USB drive, and tried to get system information (inxi -Fz i think) as asked by Stevo: output here

Then in live session i wanted to try mount my system partition to try to rename xorg.conf, did:
sudo fdisk -l
/dev/sda2 261314560 312579694 51265135 24.5G 83 Linux
mkdir mnt
sudo mount /dev/sda2 mnt
-> HDD led was lighting for many minutes, i do not hear any HDD activity.
top command shows 20-25 wa value
Firefox was shutting down automaticaly after a few seconds of runtime and i could not install iostat to see HDD activity (some apt error).

I think MX should be more helpful by detecting motherboard change automaticaly and update drivers if necesary.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Last edited by postcd on Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
OS: MXLinux GPU: AMD Radeon RX 560 ; full HW specs. as of 1/2019

User avatar
Eadwine Rose
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 8902
Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:10 am

Re: New motherboard and i can not login MX 17.1

#9

Post by Eadwine Rose » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:08 am

Ouch.. gee...

Dang I had SO hoped that xorg thing would work for you! :frown:
MX-18.3_x64 May 26 2019 * 4.19.0-5-amd64 ext4 Xfce 4.12.3 * 8-core AMD Ryzen 7 2700
Asus TUF B450-Plus Gaming UEFI * Asus GTX 1050 Ti Nvidia 390.116 * 2x16Gb DDR4 2666 Kingston HyperX Predator
Samsung 860EVO * Samsung S24D330 & P2250 * HP Envy5030

User avatar
baldyeti
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 210
Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:37 pm

Re: New motherboard and i can not login MX 17.1

#10

Post by baldyeti » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:12 am

Just taking a wild guess here: if your keyboard and/or mouse is/are connected by USB, you may need to "enable USB legacy" in the BIOS (or disable it if you find such an option, try to toggle it)

edit: now seeing your screenshot (ata errors) and inability to manually mount, i doubt this is related to USB...

Post Reply

Return to “Hardware /Configuration”