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It's an ugly Windows world out there

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It's an ugly Windows world out there

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Post by uncle mark » Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:46 pm

So a couple weeks ago the business manager at work started having computer oddities. Just some strange stuff, that he was able to work around, but indications that his load of W7 and/or his hard drive was getting funky. I built his machine maybe six years ago or so, and he rides it hard doing all kinds of stuff that it takes to keep the business running, so we got permission to have me do a big upgrade to his hardware -- mobo, cpu, memory, and an SSD -- while using the same case and PSU and optical drive. Ordered in fairly high end stuff. Planned on me doing to over this week while we're shut down.

Physical build fell together easily. But the thing won't boot the W7 install disk for nothing. Blue screens with "The bios in this system is not fully acpi compliant". Spent hours in the EFI trying all the different settings, modes, you name it. Googled until my head hurt. No joy. Totally ruined my day. As best I could tell, either the EFI needed an update (which made no sense, I'm looking to install an older OS, not the latest and greatest), or that the hardware just flat wasn't compatible with W7, and required W10.

Sure enough, buried way down at the bottom of the spec page on the manufacturer's site:

OS - Microsoft® Windows® 10 64-bit
https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/A320M-HDV ... cification

Of course, MX Linux boots straight up without any issues whatsoever.
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Re: It's an ugly Windows world out there

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Post by duane » Tue Dec 25, 2018 7:03 pm

You can't fix just plain stupid stuff.
I feel for you.
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Re: It's an ugly Windows world out there

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Post by fehlix » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:59 pm

uncle mark wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:46 pm
Of course, MX Linux boots straight up without any issues whatsoever.
Install MX, with a nice Win-login theme - and have Win7 running in VirtualBox.
Running full screen mode, you could no even spot that it's in in VM; ... :snail: ...
Tell him MX is a EFI/application layer for Win7. :p
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Re: It's an ugly Windows world out there

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Post by Paul.. » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:05 pm

uncle mark we haven't heard from you in a dog's age! good to hear from you...and duane has not had anyone to abuse in that same period...terrible shame...

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Re: It's an ugly Windows world out there

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Post by turtlebay777 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:34 pm

Surely if he trusts you to build his computer he should accept your recommendation on the nice easy OS it needs to run - MX!

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Re: It's an ugly Windows world out there

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Post by uncle mark » Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:08 pm

turtlebay777 wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:34 pm
Surely if he trusts you to build his computer he should accept your recommendation on the nice easy OS it needs to run - MX!
I already have everyone that can running Linux at my workplace. This guy's software requirements are such that it's not feasible.
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Post by turtlebay777 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:12 pm

OK Mark, then Fehlix's suggestion sounds ideal then, run in 7 in a Virtual Box.

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Re: It's an ugly Windows world out there

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Post by Stevo » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:24 pm

I'm pretty sure I remember hearing about Microsoft removing Win7 support for newer CPUs--maybe this

https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... new-chips/

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Re: It's an ugly Windows world out there

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Post by manyroads » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:32 pm

There's always ReactOS...
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Re: It's an ugly Windows world out there

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Post by turtlebay777 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:20 pm

Stevo wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:24 pm
I'm pretty sure I remember hearing about Microsoft removing Win7 support for newer CPUs--maybe this

https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... new-chips/
Well seems to me they want to shoot themselves in the foot! Presumably Linux runs on those modern chips, just not older Windows distros?

(Yeah I shouldn't use Distro to describe Windoze")

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