Creeping system failure since update.
- TenderFoot
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Creeping system failure since update.
On 17 Nov I updated for the first time since Feb. At the time, there were no apparent problems.
However, since then - though I don't think immediately - selecting shutdown/restart would only drop me down to the login screen and even logging back in and trying again the same thing happened. Each time had to resort to short press of power button at which it seemed to resume a "clean" shutdown.
Today, no WiFi. Persistent high cpu usage. Synaptic won't launch (nor much else). Shutdown and Restart greyed out.
Could this be down to latest update or creeping corruption? Fortunately took snapshot before update.
[Posted here as a possible "bug" rather than MX Modified (due to Kwin)]
However, since then - though I don't think immediately - selecting shutdown/restart would only drop me down to the login screen and even logging back in and trying again the same thing happened. Each time had to resort to short press of power button at which it seemed to resume a "clean" shutdown.
Today, no WiFi. Persistent high cpu usage. Synaptic won't launch (nor much else). Shutdown and Restart greyed out.
Could this be down to latest update or creeping corruption? Fortunately took snapshot before update.
[Posted here as a possible "bug" rather than MX Modified (due to Kwin)]
- entropyfoe
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Re: Creeping system failure since update.
Run top from the terminal?
Then you can see what programs are using all the CPU cycles and RAM.
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top
Asus PRIME X470-PRO
AMD Ryzen 3600X (12 threads @ 3.8 GHz)
32 Gig DDR4 3600 (Crucial CL 16)
Nvidia GeForce GT 710
Samsung 970 NVMe nvme0n1 P1-3=MX-23, P4=testing
Samsung 980 NVMe =1TB Data, plus 2TB WD =backups
on-board ethernet & sound
AMD Ryzen 3600X (12 threads @ 3.8 GHz)
32 Gig DDR4 3600 (Crucial CL 16)
Nvidia GeForce GT 710
Samsung 970 NVMe nvme0n1 P1-3=MX-23, P4=testing
Samsung 980 NVMe =1TB Data, plus 2TB WD =backups
on-board ethernet & sound
- dolphin_oracle
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Re: Creeping system failure since update.
Sounds like an incomplete update to me.
Try
sudo apt-get install -f
And see if anything happens. Posting any outpit feom there would be beneficial.
The package gurus may be able to offer further advice.
Try
sudo apt-get install -f
And see if anything happens. Posting any outpit feom there would be beneficial.
The package gurus may be able to offer further advice.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4 - MX-23
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.
lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4 - MX-23
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.
- TenderFoot
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Re: Creeping system failure since update.
Thanks for the responses.
I'll try your suggestions but lack of internet access means printing this page and hope that terminal launches (or can drop a level).
I'll try your suggestions but lack of internet access means printing this page and hope that terminal launches (or can drop a level).
- TenderFoot
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Re: Creeping system failure since update.
I am unable to copy and paste top output but taking notes the first 3 cpu hoggers accounting for ~70%
sudo apt-get install (given lack of wifi) produces
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message+ > dbusdaemon
root > NetworkManager
root > syslogd
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/usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set
- entropyfoe
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Re: Creeping system failure since update.
message+ > dbusdaemon
root > NetworkManager
root > syslogd
Those don't seem like they should use 70% CPU. Which machine from your signature are you seeing this on?
not sure about the dbus stuff,maybe this?
http://codeverge.com/opensuse.org.help. ... pu/1918844
But syslogd? Maybe look into /var/log/syslog (I think as root) to see if it is filling with some kind of errors???
Why would network manager be so loaded? The network connection, it can be full, but the manager? Is this a wifi connection?
root > NetworkManager
root > syslogd
Those don't seem like they should use 70% CPU. Which machine from your signature are you seeing this on?
not sure about the dbus stuff,maybe this?
http://codeverge.com/opensuse.org.help. ... pu/1918844
But syslogd? Maybe look into /var/log/syslog (I think as root) to see if it is filling with some kind of errors???
Why would network manager be so loaded? The network connection, it can be full, but the manager? Is this a wifi connection?
Last edited by entropyfoe on Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Asus PRIME X470-PRO
AMD Ryzen 3600X (12 threads @ 3.8 GHz)
32 Gig DDR4 3600 (Crucial CL 16)
Nvidia GeForce GT 710
Samsung 970 NVMe nvme0n1 P1-3=MX-23, P4=testing
Samsung 980 NVMe =1TB Data, plus 2TB WD =backups
on-board ethernet & sound
AMD Ryzen 3600X (12 threads @ 3.8 GHz)
32 Gig DDR4 3600 (Crucial CL 16)
Nvidia GeForce GT 710
Samsung 970 NVMe nvme0n1 P1-3=MX-23, P4=testing
Samsung 980 NVMe =1TB Data, plus 2TB WD =backups
on-board ethernet & sound
Re: Creeping system failure since update.
Odds are it's particular to your machine, not due to updates that many others have already installed. Can you boot with to a live session and check the health of your hard drive with either smartmontools or gsmartcontrol?
- TenderFoot
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Re: Creeping system failure since update.
The smart report on the hdd is healthy. I don't have sufficient access for further forensics from within or without even as root.
In the circumstances I'll reinstall from pre-update snapshot, update again (having sorted gpg first) then see how it goes from there...
In the circumstances I'll reinstall from pre-update snapshot, update again (having sorted gpg first) then see how it goes from there...
- TenderFoot
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Re: Creeping system failure since update.
On 23rd, reinstalled from snapshot created on 16th prior to updating. Immediately updated fresh install.
Slight(?) differences between the experiences, mostly with gpg.
On the first occasion (16th Nov) it was (apparently!) resolved by running Checkaptgpg from MX Tools.
With this install that was not successful yet trying again from terminal did not report any errors. So this time decided to update antix-archive-keyring (20015.3.14) to 20017.3.14 first then reload which seemed to relieve the constipation! Yet the package count was the same. I didn't observe whether this occurred the first time but noted that 4 packages were to be removed
In the meantime all seems to be running smoothly once more....
Slight(?) differences between the experiences, mostly with gpg.
On the first occasion (16th Nov) it was (apparently!) resolved by running Checkaptgpg from MX Tools.
With this install that was not successful yet trying again from terminal did not report any errors. So this time decided to update antix-archive-keyring (20015.3.14) to 20017.3.14 first then reload which seemed to relieve the constipation! Yet the package count was the same. I didn't observe whether this occurred the first time but noted that 4 packages were to be removed
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mx-broadcom-manager to be removed
mx-debian-backport-installer
mx-panel-orientation
mx-test-repo-installer