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Sometime, whenever I multitask or surfing through internet, the desktop just freeze.

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Sometime, whenever I multitask or surfing through internet, the desktop just freeze.

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Post by Raccoon_JS » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:27 pm

Hi there.

I am using MX Linux 18.3 Continuum x86_64 with 4.19.0-5-amd64 kernel on MacBook Air.

Sometime, whenever I am working on something while listen to podcast from YouTube, or downloading files from the internet, the computer freeze. Like, I couldn't move the mouse cursor, time on the screen stops, and the small bits of the audio repeats like a broken record.

I tried to press CTRL + ALT + Del/Esc/any button you imaginable, or open and close the laptop repeatedly, it still doesn't work.

I thought about the possible factors - having many tabs opened on Firefox browser, downloading many files at once on terminal, downloading a heavy file on terminal, keeping CPU busy etc. - but I haven't gotten any clue.
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Re: Sometime, whenever I multitask or surfing through internet, the desktop just freeze.

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Post by manyroads » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:31 pm

Given you have not provided system info... it's hard to guess what really is going on. But I think you may be running out of memory with a very memory hungry browser and open tabs.
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Re: Sometime, whenever I multitask or surfing through internet, the desktop just freeze.

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Post by Raccoon_JS » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:46 pm

manyroads wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:31 pm
Given you have not provided system info... it's hard to guess what really is going on. But I think you may be running out of memory with a very memory hungry browser and open tabs.
What part of system information do you need?

If you want to know the memory size is, it's 7881 MB.

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Re: Sometime, whenever I multitask or surfing through internet, the desktop just freeze.

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Post by manyroads » Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:58 pm

Raccoon_JS wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:46 pm
manyroads wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:31 pm
Given you have not provided system info... it's hard to guess what really is going on. But I think you may be running out of memory with a very memory hungry browser and open tabs.
What part of system information do you need?

If you want to know the memory size is, it's 7881 MB.
You might read this... viewtopic.php?p=255062#p255062
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Re: Sometime, whenever I multitask or surfing through internet, the desktop just freeze.

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Post by Yellowhoney » Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:26 pm

Ive been getting the same thing on a older Imac with only 4gb of ram , trying to find out the problem too .
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Re: Sometime, whenever I multitask or surfing through internet, the desktop just freeze.

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Post by Raccoon_JS » Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:11 pm

manyroads wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:58 pm
Raccoon_JS wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:46 pm
manyroads wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:31 pm
Given you have not provided system info... it's hard to guess what really is going on. But I think you may be running out of memory with a very memory hungry browser and open tabs.
What part of system information do you need?

If you want to know the memory size is, it's 7881 MB.
You might read this... viewtopic.php?p=255062#p255062

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System:    Host: mx Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 
           Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum May 26  2019 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Apple product: MacBookAir7,2 v: 1.0 serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: Apple model: Mac-937CB26E2E02BB01 v: MacBookAir7,2 serial: <root required> 
           UEFI: Apple v: 182.0.0.0.0 date: 09/17/2018 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 38.3 Wh condition: 38.7/54.3 Wh (71%) 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-5350U bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
           L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 500/2900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 6000 driver: i915 v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1440x900~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 6000 (Broadwell GT3) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.2.6 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Broadwell-U Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-3: Broadcom Limited 720p FaceTime HD Camera driver: N/A 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-5-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Broadcom Limited BCM4360 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter driver: wl 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: d4:61:9d:16:64:b0 
           IF-ID-1: tun0 state: unknown speed: 10 Mbps duplex: full mac: N/A 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 233.76 GiB used: 90.31 GiB (38.6%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Apple model: SSD SM0256G size: 233.76 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 226.85 GiB used: 90.31 GiB (39.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 61.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 237 Uptime: 1h 59m Memory: 7.70 GiB used: 2.11 GiB (27.4%) Shell: bash 
           inxi: 3.0.33

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Re: Sometime, whenever I multitask or surfing through internet, the desktop just freeze.

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Post by Stevo » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:04 pm

We do have Conky's that show your current RAM use, though I prefer a widget on the taskbar that lets me keep track of it. I can run out of 16 GB RAM and go to swap quite easily when building some package like Iridium, and the symptoms are exactly as you describe, down to the music starting repeating the last second or so. I usually take a break then, since I know that the high memory use during the Iridium build is pretty brief and it's usually finished thrashing the swap partition by the time I come back.

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Re: Sometime, whenever I multitask or surfing through internet, the desktop just freeze.

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Post by JayM » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:07 am

OTOH I only have 8GB in my desktop PC and the only time I've come close to 100% RAM utilization is if I'm running a guest virtual machine or two, and running some apps in those, while also running Firefox and other apps in the host PC. A normal user who's web-surfing and watching YouTube videos shouldn't run into memory bottlenecks unless he's installed a lot of things that are running in the background, or installed a desktop environment that takes up more resources.

I get my CPU usage pegging out way more often, but even under load my RAM utilization rarely reaches 50%. Speaking of CPU I notice in the CPU information that it's a 2.9GHz Core i5 dual core but it's running at only 800MHz idle speed. That seems a bit slow for the lower-end frequency. I had my 2.6GHz Athlon set for a low frequency of 1GHz and I kept having problems. Not like the ones described here, but lots of file system inode and block errors. I raised my minimum/idle frequency to 1.6GHz and haven't had any more problems. I would recommend doing the same for yours.
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Re: Sometime, whenever I multitask or surfing through internet, the desktop just freeze.

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Post by Raccoon_JS » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:19 am

JayM wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:07 am
I raised my minimum/idle frequency to 1.6GHz and haven't had any more problems. I would recommend doing the same for yours.
How do I change minimum/idle frequency of CPU?

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Re: Sometime, whenever I multitask or surfing through internet, the desktop just freeze.

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Post by jj1j1 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:14 am

This might help. https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling. "linux-cpupower" is available in the MXPI stable repo.
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