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[Solved] MX 18 freezes randomly

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Sanji
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[Solved] MX 18 freezes randomly

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Post by Sanji » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:59 pm

Hi All

I just put together a new computer. Ryzen 1600, B450 motherboard, 16 gig ram, 2 ssds, ati hd7770 video card. I have the / directory on a 250G m.2 drive and the /home directory on a 250G normal SATA SSD.

What happens is that the ssystem just freezes, it has happened about 3 times now. Leading up to it the system memory usage has been at anywhere from 2% to 20%, cpu usage is very low. I think it might be a hardware issue since it's a new build, but I need help narrowing this down to a specific component? Is there any diagnostic I could run? are there any error log files i could look at? it might be the video card which is kind of old, or I'm thinking maybe the m.2 SSD is acting up since i've never used one before I'm not sure if there's some BIOS settings i should change for it.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: MX 18 freezes randomly

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Post by timkb4cq » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:38 pm

Make sure that you have the latest BIOS update (v17) installed. There were lots of problems with the Ryzen processors on that motherboard with earlier BIOS versions. Quick System Info will show you the version and that Info can help us help you so post it back here.

I found this thread on Ryzen soft lockups that suggests that a BIOS setting for Power Supply Idle Control may be needed, although looking through the BIOS updates for your board that may have been handled already in the latest BIOS version.
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Re: MX 18 freezes randomly

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Post by JayM » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:42 pm

Also see this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=47613
OS: MX-18.1 x64. Kernel: 4.9.160-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64. CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ 2.6GHz. GPU: AMD RS780 (Radeon HD 3200). Mobo: ASRock A780GM-LE. BIOS: AMI P1.50 (5/25/2010). HDDs: WD Blue 500GB+Seagate Barracuda 1TB. RAM: 8GB (2x4GB 400MHz) DDR2

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Re: MX 18 freezes randomly

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Post by Sanji » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:00 am

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System:    Host: Nienna Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.2_x64 Continuum Feb 9  2019 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7B86 v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Micro-Star model: B450 GAMING PLUS (MS-7B86) v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends v: 1.50 date: 01/25/2019 
Battery:   Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech M570 charge: 80% status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: 6-Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen rev: 1 
           L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 76790 
           Speed: 1378 MHz min/max: 1550/3200 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1378 2: 1377 3: 1377 
           4: 1377 5: 1377 6: 1377 7: 1376 8: 1377 9: 1379 10: 1402 11: 1485 12: 1353 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Juniper XT [Radeon HD 5770] vendor: Hightech Information System 
           driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 1f:00.0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD JUNIPER (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.19.0-1-amd64 LLVM 7.0.0) 
           v: 3.3 Mesa 18.2.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: AMD Juniper HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5700 Series] 
           vendor: Hightech Information System driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 1f:00.1 
           Device-2: AMD vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 21:00.3 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: f000 bus ID: 18:00.0 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR93xx Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath9k v: kernel 
           port: f000 bus ID: 1c:00.0 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 961.34 GiB used: 7.03 GiB (0.7%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: HP model: SSD EX900 250GB size: 232.89 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WDS250G2B0A-00SM50 size: 232.89 GiB 
           ID-3: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000BMVU-11A08S0 
           size: 465.76 GiB 
           ID-4: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive size: 29.81 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 212.85 GiB used: 5.86 GiB (2.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 
           ID-2: /home size: 228.23 GiB used: 1.17 GiB (0.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 15.62 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.9 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 34 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch stretch main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 261 Uptime: 1h 13m Memory: 15.68 GiB used: 1.95 GiB (12.5%) Init: SysVinit 
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.33 

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Re: MX 18 freezes randomly

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Post by caprea » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:56 am

Your bios looks new enough.
You have to find the " Power Supply Idle Control " settings and set it from "auto" to "Typical Current Idle"
It's may not so easy to find on msi-motherboards the following links may help
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=301425.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/8 ... 1d_is_out/

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Re: MX 18 freezes randomly

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Post by manyroads » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:07 am

Just talking without knowing but might a kernel other than Nienna Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 be helpful (like the 5.0.6 Liqourix from @stevo) ?
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Re: MX 18 freezes randomly

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Post by Paul.. » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:36 am

I think the kernel is fine. I am using close to the same chipset here (AMD Ryzen 5 1400) and I think you should check your UEFI/BIOS firmware setting.

See Tim's (timkb4cq) post above...Making the change he mentioned solved my similar Ryzen instability...viewtopic.php?p=496533#p496533

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Re: MX 18 freezes randomly

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Post by Sanji » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:21 pm

Hello again

I just got home from work read all of your responses, thank you so much for taking the time to look into this.

I have set the Power supply idle control to 'Typical Current Idle', and will wait and see if this works.
By the way this was in the Overclocking settings for my MSI B450 motherboard.

The bug is not easily reproducible and doesn't happen during every login session so it will take a few days to know for sure if this works.

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Re: MX 18 freezes randomly

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Post by Sanji » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:33 pm

Hi All

Everything has been running smoothly thus far. It looks like the solution was to set the Power supply idle control to 'Typical Current Idle' in the BIOS settings.

Has anyone tried contacting the motherboard manufacturer or AMD about changing the default settings for this? Is this going to increase my power consumption significantly?

Thanks again.

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