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Re: xfwm borders theme

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Post by skidoo » Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:05 am

I'm posting to encourage further investigation, toward determining whether the Xfce xfwm effective (even if not necessarily visible) grabhandle width is contrained to the specs of the currently selected theme.

Via preferences, we can already choose theme-independent: mouse sensititivity, border/titlebar opacity...
maybe, hopefully, the status quo is that no control widget to specify grabhandle width exists (yet, to date) within the GUI.

I'm chasing a tangential but somewhat related goal ~~ injection of theme-independent borders (not grabhandles).
The firejail author has stated that the prospect of achieving sandboxie -like colorized windows borders around sandboxed applications windows, that prospect hinges on its ability to interact with the window manager (I infer this means directly, without concern toward competing with // overriding theme-specific details).

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Re: xfwm borders theme

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Post by Mauser » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:20 am

Stevo wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:27 pm
Mauser wrote:
Fri Jan 18, 2019 8:54 pm
tascoast wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:21 pm
I once, in another galaxy, used bright green and red window borders for active and inactive windows, for easier targeting by the mouse pointer. I do like the idea of thicker borders and have been meaning to address this issue with some tinkering.

*keeps following thread.... :thumbup:
I am interested in this subject but never asked because I didn't know if anything could be done about. I thought it was just the way Linux is and I have to adapt to it. As for galaxies I am in the Milky Way but I am in a dimension where window boarders in Linux are thinner than a blank hair that makes it extremely difficult to grab onto with the mouse courser to resize. A much thicker boarder would be much welcomed if it's possible. I will watch this thread to see if thicker boarders are possible in my dimension. So far I haven't seen any thicker boarders yet, but yet again my eyes sight is not what it once was when I was called "Eagle Eyes" by my friends when I was younger. I wish success on this. Is only Arc Boarders Naked the only option?
The newer arc-theme package in the repo is patched to have somewhat thicker borders than the hair-thin ones at present.
Thanks. I was looking for other themes with thicker boarders. Based on what you say, it looks like it's built into the theme and not easily changeable within the thme. I guess I will live with it as I have until I come across to theme to my liking. I usually get my themes from here. https://www.xfce-look.org/browse/ord/top/
I am command line illiterate. :confused:

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Re: xfwm borders theme

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Post by asqwerth » Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:28 am

Don't just change the theme; change the Window Manager theme as the latter is what sets the window bar design and borders for many (not all) programs like Thunar.

Open MX-Tweak, click on the second button at the bottom called Window Manager, and try a few WM themes. Some are more grabbable than others.


You can also add this versatile WM theme called, not-very-imaginatively, "borders".

Go to my post in this other (newer) thread: viewtopic.php?p=479776#p479776

download the archive file from the given link, extract the contents to: $HOME/.themes

Then open Window Manager again and apply "borders" to be your WM theme.
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Re: xfwm borders theme

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Post by Jerry3904 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:57 am

Can someone draft up a Wiki entry for future use so we don't have to send users to find posts in a thread? I'm in NYC for a few days and can do nothing, besides i haven't been involved.
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Re: xfwm borders theme

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Post by asqwerth » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:35 am

Jerry3904 wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:57 am
Can someone draft up a Wiki entry for future use so we don't have to send users to find posts in a thread? I'm in NYC for a few days and can do nothing, besides i haven't been involved.

I can try to write a short summary but is the topic on:
1. how to install/apply WM themes and how they control the borders and window bar,

or

2. where the WM theme is found generally in a gtk theme folder, and how it can be extracted even if the rest of the theme is no longer compatible?
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Re: xfwm borders theme

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Post by oops » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:39 am

Jerry3904 wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:57 am
Can someone draft up a Wiki entry for future use so we don't have to send users to find posts in a thread? I'm in NYC for a few days and can do nothing, besides i haven't been involved.
Not very easy because some solutions co-exist, Paul summary (even a .svg solution), see her:
viewtopic.php?p=479821#p479821

... And Stevo said, for old computers with AntiX:
viewtopic.php?p=480085#p480085
"... Excluding arc-theme since it does a load of CPU-intensive image rendering from the svg files."
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Re: xfwm borders theme

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Post by Jerry3904 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:53 am

asqwerth wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:35 am
Jerry3904 wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:57 am
Can someone draft up a Wiki entry for future use so we don't have to send users to find posts in a thread? I'm in NYC for a few days and can do nothing, besides i haven't been involved.

I can try to write a short summary but is the topic on:
1. how to install/apply WM themes and how they control the borders and window bar,

or

2. where the WM theme is found generally in a gtk theme folder, and how it can be extracted even if the rest of the theme is no longer compatible?
Do i have to choose? Can't a generic title (maybe "window borders") cover two subsections?

With links to the topics oops mentions?
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Re: xfwm borders theme

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Post by asqwerth » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:11 am

Jerry3904 wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:53 am
asqwerth wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:35 am
Jerry3904 wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:57 am
Can someone draft up a Wiki entry for future use so we don't have to send users to find posts in a thread? I'm in NYC for a few days and can do nothing, besides i haven't been involved.

I can try to write a short summary but is the topic on:
1. how to install/apply WM themes and how they control the borders and window bar,

or

2. where the WM theme is found generally in a gtk theme folder, and how it can be extracted even if the rest of the theme is no longer compatible?
Do i have to choose? Can't a generic title (maybe "window borders") cover two subsections?

With links to the topics oops mentions?
I"m not keen to cover the stuff raised by oops. A bit beyond my understanding. Svg is just a mystery to me.
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Re: xfwm borders theme

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Post by Paul.. » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:07 am

asqwerth wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:11 am
I"m not keen to cover the stuff raised by oops. A bit beyond my understanding. Svg is just a mystery to me.
You're not alone...I don't understand how it works at all.

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Re: xfwm borders theme

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Post by Jerry3904 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:52 am

Ok, then leave it out, thanks.
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