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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#411 Post by AK-47 »

m_pav wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:20 pm
fehlix wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:22 am Perhaps, I may translate this for other reading this: We shall stick to the default time representation of those countries locale like en_AU and en_NZ, which have both 12h and 24h, and use Debian's default time format, which is 24h-clock for en_AU and en_NZ and for other like en_US, en_CA, el_GR ... the default 12h would also be used. The advantage of sticking to the default, would be for any clock a user might choose the default would be in place according to the locale LC_TIME default.
Otherwise we would have to many different time display formats (e.g. at the Login screen, at the panel (orage-clock, xfce-datetime, Conky clock).
No for the 24-hour clock in NZ, Au can have it but not here. I think of the thousands of people I have served, only a handful use the 24 hour clock. We do not like calling 5:20PM 17:20, it just doesn't make any sense around here. Schools still teach the 12 hour clock, so that way it must stay.
You ought to tell Debian that (though I'm surprised schools don't teach 24 hours there). What fehlix is proposing is that, rather than maintaining our own list of where 24-hour is considered sacrilege, we should use the Debian locale info to avoid duplicating efforts.
Those who want 12 hours can select 12 hours and same for 24 hours, so it's nothing to fuss over. So either we (a) Stick to H:mm(:ss) being the default, or (b) Use whatever Debian uses. There may be a country that likes to put leading zeros in front of the time.
From what I know, antiX uses (a) with 24 hour as the default, and doesn't even bother looking at the LC_TIME default.

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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#412 Post by Jerry3904 »

Sounds reasonable: go with Debian and be done with it. We have other fish to fry...

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#413 Post by dolphin_oracle »

I don't think that's the end. mostly because our old way is in place (with the latest update to the installer) and works and no one has complained about it for years and years.

changing now is actually more work. and bound to piss off certain contributors when we did this the first time.

I really appreciate the efforts of those that weren't here when the list was put together, I truly do. but there were reasons, and I don't think they should be thrown out.

but whatever. someone wants to write it go write ahead. the git repos are available to all.
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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#414 Post by mjtux »

Last night I watched a short review of Beta 2.1 on youtube.
I noticed that the Matcha themes had been added.
https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1187179/

Here are some themes that I like that may not already be installed in MX 19.

Light Themes Dark Themes
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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#415 Post by asqwerth »

Some of the themes mentioned are gtk2 themes (dust sand Mac) or gtk3 themes made for older versions of gtk3 and no longer maintained (adwaita xfce dark). Gtk2-only themes won't theme gtk3 apps, including the whole xfce 4.14. Outdated gtk3 themes may show up weird or wrong when used on newer versions of gtk3 .

Arc is installed.

Nordic is nice for me, but probably a bit too niche for the default iso.

So perhaps you may wish to have a separate thread discussing what themes are nice AND work well with debian buster's gtk version 3.24.
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#416 Post by winemaker »

not technically helpful; however, i am new to MX and am most pleased in what i have seen and experienced with it. I think you devs are doing a super job and believe that the choices the team will make will be the best. they are the ones that have to do all of the dirty work/coding and tweaking and running down errors etc.

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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#417 Post by AK-47 »

dolphin_oracle wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:12 pm I don't think that's the end. mostly because our old way is in place (with the latest update to the installer) and works and no one has complained about it for years and years.
I have just changed the installer to use essentially QLocale::system().timeFormat() which appears to conform to our list including the recognition of AU and NZ as 12-hour countries, on MX 18.3 at least anyway. I doubt this would be different for 19 but I haven't had a chance to check this out.
I'm impressed that people could be so passionate about an option that's easily changeable with the click of a mouse, but such is life I suppose.

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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#418 Post by nixy »

mjtux wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:18 pm Last night I watched a short review of Beta 2.1 on youtube.
I noticed that the Matcha themes had been added.
https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1187179/

Here are some themes that I like that may not already be installed in MX 19.

Light Themes Dark Themes
Check out Qogir theme, it's the best looking theme imho.

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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#419 Post by darknetmatrix »

+1 for the Nordic theme
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Re: MX-19 Beta 2.1 Feedback

#420 Post by Fast-Game »

darknetmatrix wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:01 am +1 for the Nordic theme
Yes, Nordic theme :hug:

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