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Laurentius
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Kernel updates

#1 Post by Laurentius » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:54 pm

Hello.
I just wanted to ask about the kernel updates on MX.
Do they come with the MX-Updater? I have my system up-to-date but i think the kernel has not moved since the installation (around december 2017, maybe).
Should i ugrade it?

Thanks.

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$ inxi -F
System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 4.13.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 
           Distro: MX-17.1_x64 Horizon December 15, 2017 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: Compaq Presario CQ40 Notebook PC 
           v: F.31 serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: Compal model: 3607 v: 99.97 serial: <root required> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard 
           v: F.31 date: 02/03/2009 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 11.7 Wh condition: 36.3/48.8 Wh (74%) 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Pentium T4200 bits: 64 type: MCP L2 cache: 1024 KiB 
           Speed: 1197 MHz min/max: 1200/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1197 2: 1197 
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express v: 2.1 Mesa 13.0.6 
Audio:     Card-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.13.0-1-amd64 
Network:   Card-1: Broadcom Limited BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY driver: wl 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:21:00:da:39:99 
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:23:5a:9e:84:ba 
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 177.93 GiB used: 99.70 GiB (56.0%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: HM160HI size: 149.05 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 3.0 size: 28.88 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 14.36 GiB used: 6.77 GiB (47.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
           ID-2: /home size: 114.33 GiB used: 80.06 GiB (70.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 1.96 GiB used: 105.8 MiB (5.3%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 187 Uptime: 5d 16h 46m Memory: 1.89 GiB used: 1.24 GiB (65.6%) Shell: bash 
           inxi: 3.0.10 

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Re: Kernel updates

#2 Post by Jerry3904 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:41 pm

You might want to check out how kernels are handled in MX: Users Manual section 7.6.2. Many of us have elected to upgrade to one of those hardened against recent challenges. Using the MX Package Installer, I use the 4.14 series, but 4.15 and others are also available.
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Production: 4.15.0-1-amd64, MX-17.1, AMD FX-4130 Quad-Core, GeForce GT 630/PCIe/SSE2, 8 GB, Kingston SSD 120 GB and WesternDigital 1TB
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Re: Kernel updates

#3 Post by Laurentius » Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:11 pm

Thank you.
I checked the user manual and tried 4.15 but i found some troubles sometimes when suspend. So i uninstalled it and use default 4.13 again.
I'll try then 4.14.
Anyway, although the inxi output shows Kernel: 4.13.0-1-amd64, in Synaptic I find
linux-image-4.13.0-1-amd64 on "Package" column but 4.13.13-1mx17 on "Installed Version" column.
So which one is running, 4.13.0-1 or 4.13.13-1?

And 4.13 does not show anymore MX-Package Installer (not even greyed out)

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Re: Kernel updates

#4 Post by Stevo » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:55 pm

They are both the same kernel. Debian has two different sets of names for their kernels--type "uname -a" to see both for your running kernel.

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Re: Kernel updates

#5 Post by truongtfg » Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:34 am

If you are adventurous, you can install liquorix kernel, which is supposed to increase the responsiveness of the system (it is in the repo, in my case I install the 4.17 version). Besides, I also install xanmod kernel (not available in the kernel), which IMO is really good. But if you have a nvidia card, you will need to install gcc-8 from Debian unstable repo, and this may be quite a headache. Besides, upgrading or installing a kernel is fairly safe because the new kernel won't override the old, thus if the new one is no good you can switch back fairly easy.

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Re: Kernel updates

#6 Post by zorzi » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:37 pm

How long may we stay safely with Kernel 4.15 ? Isn't this kernel supposed to be end of life since a few weeks ?

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Re: Kernel updates

#7 Post by Richard » Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:27 pm

Wow.
4.15 end of life; move to 4.16:
https://www.qwant.com/?client=brz-vival ... 0of%20life
and...then 4.16 end of life? Move to 4.17.
https://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-k ... 1777.shtml
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MX171, AA1(ZG5) & EeePC-1005ha: DualCore N270, 1 GBRAM, 4.15.0-1-686-pae, 150GB HDD
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Re: Kernel updates

#8 Post by KBD » Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:22 pm

I'm running 4.16 on two of my vanilla Debian installs. It is in backports.

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Re: Kernel updates

#9 Post by Richard » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:57 pm

For curiosity, I installed 4.17.0-1-amd64 x86_64
on my T430. So far the only thing I've noticed is that
I have to fix Virtualbox again. :)
MX171, Lenovo T430-2017: i5-3320M, 8 GBRAM, 4.18.0-1-amd64, intel_pstate, 119GB SSD
MX171, AA1(ZG5) & EeePC-1005ha: DualCore N270, 1 GBRAM, 4.15.0-1-686-pae, 150GB HDD
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Re: Kernel updates

#10 Post by zorzi » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:42 am

On my MX, I installed default Debian kernel 4.9, side to MX 17.1 kernel 4.15.

Well, since 4.15 kernel has reached its end of life (and my hardware is a little bit old), I wonder if it's not better to definitely switch to Debian LTS kernel 4.9. Maybe easier than installing/removing everytime kernel 4.16, and then 4.17 etc.

What do you think about this ?

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