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Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#71 Post by xali » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:36 am


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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#72 Post by linwinux » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:31 am

You're posting this in a Linux forum, even though it says right on the start page:
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Windows 8 / Windows 7 / Vista / XP, 128 MB RAM and 40 MB Hard Disk Space
I dunno, to me part of a good & secure browser also has to do with background & development. That's one of the reasons (for me anyway) why it's so hard to switch from Firefox or Opera, since those two have been tried 'n' true for many years. Google is by no means a privacy conscientous as some would like to believe, so neither Chrome nor Chromium are an option for me. My wife and I have been Online for over 20 years, so we take our email & browsing security pretty serious. Our connections to the Internet are all cabled, we would never sync any of our devices together, and we'd never store our stuff on the cloud either ... which is just another third party server that may or may not end up getting hacked one day. Some of the world's biggest banks & credit card companies have been hacked during the past 5 years, with account data of hundreds of millions of people being stolen. Just saying' ... :eek:
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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#73 Post by xali » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:07 am

you are right thanks, my fault

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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#74 Post by wulf » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:41 pm

linwinux wrote:
Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:31 am
You're posting this in a Linux forum, even though it says right on the start page:
System Requirements
Windows 8 / Windows 7 / Vista / XP, 128 MB RAM and 40 MB Hard Disk Space
I dunno, to me part of a good & secure browser also has to do with background & development. That's one of the reasons (for me anyway) why it's so hard to switch from Firefox or Opera, since those two have been tried 'n' true for many years. Google is by no means a privacy conscientous as some would like to believe, so neither Chrome nor Chromium are an option for me. My wife and I have been Online for over 20 years, so we take our email & browsing security pretty serious. Our connections to the Internet are all cabled, we would never sync any of our devices together, and we'd never store our stuff on the cloud either ... which is just another third party server that may or may not end up getting hacked one day. Some of the world's biggest banks & credit card companies have been hacked during the past 5 years, with account data of hundreds of millions of people being stolen. Just saying' ... :eek:
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Have you tried Waterfox?..I know I sound like a damn salesman for it, but I have no affiliation with the product whatsoever..I just found it to be an excellent replacement for Firefox in Windows and in MX..

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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#75 Post by oops » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:27 pm

Otherwise, very fast and very light, for a furtive use, you have also

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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#76 Post by linwinux » Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:50 am

You have to keep some really important features as well as standard functions for browsers in mind. First, all browsers appear to be "lightning fast" initially, until their cache/cookie and other standard functions are filled/used up. So if you want to get a pretty accurate feel for the speed of the browser that you like ... simply use it every day for a week while clearing all stored data every time that you close the browser (daily at least). Better yet, have the settings set to 0 MB, for your cache. On top of that, if you have a VPN service, keep that enabled at the same time. And finally, if you have a decent computer with half-way decent speed & ram, keep about 8 - 12 open tabs in place at all times, making sure to use all of them during each open session. All of this together will provide you with a pretty accurate picture of how the browser will behave most of the time under most conditions, that you work in regularily.

To me it's also important how "globally conscious" the developers of a browser are, since I search US, UK, German, Swiss, and Austrian locations quite regularily. Pale Moon for example, only has 18 languages listed and even worse, some of those languages aren't exactly a piece of cake to have working properly, for inexperienced computer users. I've experienced several issues with this browser which I could repeat or had repeat on me, on 3 different computers, corrupting my Linux X desktop session. Granted, the issue fixed itself over the course of 10 - 20 seconds, but there's something not quite right and I don't know what it is. So Pale Moon, although quite fast, isn't even a consideration for me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Moon_(web_browser)

Chrome & Chromium aren't even up to debate for us. But that's a whole different topic that has more to do with personal security opinions than anything else. We like the Google search engine best out of the 4 biggest search engines out there (used to love Alta Vista), but that's the only "Google stuff" that we would intentionally allow in our house. I have no proof of this, but there's no doubt in my mind, especially considering the many service TOS agreement updates over the years, that actually repecting user privacy is not on the forefront of Google/Chrome's intentions. But goodie for me, I don't even like the way that Chrome/Chromium look since I can't make certain window functions work for me, functions that I use pretty much every day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome

But if you're a die hard Chrome user, consider switching to Chromium instead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)

Vivaldi has over 1 million users in less than a year and that's pretty impressive. It's the fastest browser that I have ever used, with consistently fast speed no matter what we do, which includes using VPN services 24 x 7. The available options are the most intense that I've ever seen, it's unbelievably user friendly, configurable, it's available in over 50 languages, and it's built on Opera with the background of Vivaldi also going back to Opera development. The developers of Vivaldi are, in my opinion, very globally & socially conscious, which I also find to be very positive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)

I haven't had the opportunity to use Waterfox yet, will probably get around to that in the near future, but the available Wikipedia article didn't strike me as Waterfox being overly impressive in any way. Remember, until all cache & cookie settings have been filled, just about all browsers are pretty impressive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfox

Last but not least, Opera is IMO phenomenal, but there are some standard functions that I find irritating enough for me to use Opera only as my third choice for browsing on the desktop. Firefox is and has been my second go to choice for quite some time now, and as of a week or so ago I've decided that Vivaldi is the best browser that I've ever used (aside from Netscape, back in the day). The only time that I've ever used Internet Exploder since Windows XP, was when I was forced to use it due to working on someone elses' machine. I think IE is the worst of the worst ...
Anyway, there you have it, my novel of the day. :p

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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#77 Post by KBD » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:01 am

linwinux wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:50 am
We like the Google search engine best out of the 4 biggest search engines out there (used to love Alta Vista), but that's the only "Google stuff" that we would intentionally allow in our house. I have no proof of this, but there's no doubt in my mind, especially considering the many service TOS agreement updates over the years, that actually repecting user privacy is not on the forefront of Google/Chrome's intentions.
I use Startpage for both search and my home page. It is Google search without the Google spying:
https://www.startpage.com/

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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#78 Post by wulf » Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:29 pm

KBD wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:01 am
linwinux wrote:
Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:50 am
We like the Google search engine best out of the 4 biggest search engines out there (used to love Alta Vista), but that's the only "Google stuff" that we would intentionally allow in our house. I have no proof of this, but there's no doubt in my mind, especially considering the many service TOS agreement updates over the years, that actually repecting user privacy is not on the forefront of Google/Chrome's intentions.
I use Startpage for both search and my home page. It is Google search without the Google spying:
https://www.startpage.com/
Searx is my daily goto...You can even download the code and build your own search engine if desired :cool:

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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#79 Post by cyrilus31 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:44 pm

If you don't know you may try Qwant, an european search engine boasting privacy : you are not tracked and your data are not sold thus showing neutral info.
I use it everyday for many months and results are not so bad.

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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#80 Post by colin_b » Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:46 pm

These are the best extensions I have found for Vivaldi. I use them full time and regard them as essential.

uBlock Origin - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... phjbkeiagm

Essential ad blocker. Does a great job. It is most effective in the advanced mode, and this is well explained at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lisQQmWQkY

Decentraleyes - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... gapcfdljkj

Protects against tracking through "free", centralised, content delivery. Also speeds up surfing. The following is important if you use uBlock Origin in the advanced mode.
https://github.com/Synzvato/decentraley ... -Questions

For uMatrix and uBlock Origin (non-easy mode) users

Note: Easy mode is uBlock Origin's default mode. Unless you've manually applied a more strict blocking mode (e.g. medium), you do not need to follow the steps below. By proceeding, you accept that you'll need to manually un-break pages. In doubt? Ignore this guide.

Open up the extension dashboard, and navigate to the My rules tab. Revert any unwanted non-permanent changes, click Edit under the temporary rules section, and paste the list of rules below into the text area. Save and commit your changes. Supported requests will now be delegated.

* ajax.googleapis.com * noop
* ajax.aspnetcdn.com * noop
* ajax.microsoft.com * noop
* cdnjs.cloudflare.com * noop
* code.jquery.com * noop
* cdn.jsdelivr.net * noop
* yastatic.net * noop
* yandex.st * noop
* libs.baidu.com * noop
* lib.sinaapp.com * noop
* upcdn.b0.upaiyun.com * noop
* sdn.geekzu.org * noop
* ajax.proxy.ustclug.org * noop

Important: Enable the block requests for missing resources setting inside the Decentraleyes extension Options screen, in order to reinstate your strict CDN-blocking policies.
Speed-Up Browsing - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... jnogjghdfb

Speeds up browsing over the time by adding missing Cache-Control response headers. Go to the extension options, select "Force cache" and prepare for take off :happy:

Canvas Defender - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... opadkifnpm

Canvas Defender creates a unique and persistent noise that hides your real canvas fingerprint. Test your canvas fingerprint at https://browserleaks.com/canvas. It works.

Poper Blocker - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... bkopceiche

Effective pop up blocker.

Chrome Font Rendering Enhancer - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... cfmbiggljo

Improves font rendering.

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