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Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

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Richard
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Re: Browser replacement?

#41 Post by Richard » Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:41 pm

Qupzilla 2.2.6 is much improved over the older 2.1.2.
It is quick. Going to have to try it a while.
Lots of configs.
MX17.1: Lenovo T430-2017, 8 GB RAM, 4.15.0-1-amd64, intel_pstate, 119 GB SSD
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Re: Browser replacement?

#42 Post by GreenMartian » Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:45 am

Yes, second that.

It would be nice to see an alternative with exceptional tab handling. A Tab Mix lite lite lite -esque.

GM

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Re: Browser replacement?

#43 Post by skidoo » Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:22 am

https://qupzilla.com/
Development News March 15, 2018

Final QupZilla release is out!
Final release, QupZilla 2.2.6, is now out.There will be no more QupZilla releases, please switch to Falkon.
Package: falkon (3.0.0-3)
https://packages.debian.org/buster/falkon

Falkon is available from debian testing/buster repository... and is a wet noodle. A lead baloon.
The debian package forces you to install KDE Wallet.
If you self-compile falkon, wallet is an "optional" component, and falkon will build fine (no fiddling with build options) in its absence.

I built and test drove the 64bit v3.0.0.3
With 2 tabs open (forum.mxlinux.org + youtube/video @720p)
the qtWebEngine processes and falkon process consumed ~600MB RAM @ 51-76% CPU load. When I dropped back to 480p video playback, CPU load reduced to ~34%...

Fonts were fuzzy/blurry, the UI is absolutely generic, and I found no indication that any "plugins" aside from adblock were available. I'm enthusiastic about the prospect of python-powered plugins, but in falkon's current state it's not a keeper, IMO.

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Re: Browser replacement?

#44 Post by Bierhundt » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:29 am

skidoo wrote: https://qupzilla.com/
Development News March 15, 2018

Final QupZilla release is out!
Final release, QupZilla 2.2.6, is now out.There will be no more QupZilla releases, please switch to Falkon.


Package: falkon (3.0.0-3)
https://packages.debian.org/buster/falkon

Falkon is available from debian testing/buster repository... and is a wet noodle. A lead baloon.
The debian package forces you to install KDE Wallet.
If you self-compile falkon, wallet is an "optional" component, and falkon will build fine (no fiddling with build options) in its absence.

I built and test drove the 64bit v3.0.0.3
With 2 tabs open (forum.mxlinux.org + youtube/video @720p)
the qtWebEngine processes and falkon process consumed ~600MB RAM @ 51-76% CPU load. When I dropped back to 480p video playback, CPU load reduced to ~34%...

Fonts were fuzzy/blurry, the UI is absolutely generic, and I found no indication that any "plugins" aside from adblock were available. I'm enthusiastic about the prospect of python-powered plugins, but in falkon's current state it's not a keeper, IMO.
Well, I guess that answers that question! If there will be no more releases, and they want you to switch to another browser, I'll just download the latest QupZilla 2.2.6 and keep it as my backup! I don't care to be forced to use something I don't like (KDE wallet) always gave me fits in the past, so I'll just use QupZilla 2.2.6 until it's no longer viable and look for another backup. Seems like it should be good for a year or so ......
Thanks for letting me know skidoo!

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Re: Browser replacement?

#45 Post by Bierhundt » Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:39 am

I went to download the latest qupzilla, but it's not the 2.2.6, so I guess I'll have to wait a few days or use wget (which nobody seems to like anymore)! Oh, bag it! .... I'll just keep the one I've got and hope that something better comes along!
Thanks to all who have helped and given advice along the way!

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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#46 Post by Richard » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:19 am

In synaptic, /mx/repo, there is now the 2.2.6 qupzilla-appimage.
I think it just recently got moved to main.
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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#47 Post by KBD » Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:20 pm

I suspect it is not lightweight, but curious if anyone here has used the Brave browser, and what you think of it?
I always kept Chrome around as a backup browser, but trying to go on a Google diet, so wondering what would be a good backup to Firefox, lightweight or not.

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Re: Browser replacement?

#48 Post by Stevo » Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:20 pm

skidoo wrote:
https://qupzilla.com/
Development News March 15, 2018

Final QupZilla release is out!
Final release, QupZilla 2.2.6, is now out.There will be no more QupZilla releases, please switch to Falkon.
Package: falkon (3.0.0-3)
https://packages.debian.org/buster/falkon

Falkon is available from debian testing/buster repository... and is a wet noodle. A lead baloon.
The debian package forces you to install KDE Wallet.
If you self-compile falkon, wallet is an "optional" component, and falkon will build fine (no fiddling with build options) in its absence.

I built and test drove the 64bit v3.0.0.3
With 2 tabs open (forum.mxlinux.org + youtube/video @720p)
the qtWebEngine processes and falkon process consumed ~600MB RAM @ 51-76% CPU load. When I dropped back to 480p video playback, CPU load reduced to ~34%...

Fonts were fuzzy/blurry, the UI is absolutely generic, and I found no indication that any "plugins" aside from adblock were available. I'm enthusiastic about the prospect of python-powered plugins, but in falkon's current state it's not a keeper, IMO.
I thought that Falkon 3 has essentially the same code base as Qupzilla 2.2.6, so how did things get screwed up? I looked, and haven't found any Falkon appimages to test or package either.

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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#49 Post by Bierhundt » Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:17 am

Just to let you all know, I settled on Seamonkey - works great for me!

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Re: Browser replacement? (Solved, for now!)

#50 Post by linwinux » Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:17 am

Look into Vivaldi Browser when you have some spare time. There's more information about it here on the MX forum as well:
viewtopic.php?p=449681#p449681

(We're located about 95 clicks north of Frankfurt) :p

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