Sysvinit Future

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BitJam
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Re: Sysvinit Future

#11 Post by BitJam »

sanlav wrote:1. sysvinit was Proved at least few hundreths million times till now. Yes, it is an old serial system but he does his job very well ...
Actually, we have already parallelized the most important part, the "networking" script (at least on antiX, it is possible MX was doing this already with networkmanager). Bringing up the network interfaces happens in parallel in the background which speeds up the boot process because there is no big pause waiting for them all to come up. And a slow one or a disconnected one won't penalize the others.

We try to get to the desktop ASAP while the network interfaces may take a few seconds more to become active.
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Re: Sysvinit Future

#12 Post by chiguy1256 »

anticapitalista
Have you tried it on MX Linux? Please give feedback if you have or intend to do so.
Yes, I have tried MX Linux. I have it running as a guest OS. Honestly, I think it is one of the best distros out there. I hope that the community continues to grow. Thanks.

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Re: Sysvinit Future

#13 Post by dreamer »

Jesse Smith from Distrowatch is now maintaining SysV init:

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issu ... 26#opinion

:number1:

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Re: Sysvinit Future

#14 Post by Richard »

Wow. That
http://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php? ... 7a#p442262
is big news for MX, antiX, Devuan, and I'm sure others.
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Re: Sysvinit Future

#15 Post by zpimp »

does mx linux use systemd or sysVinit?
i read is sysV but i see some systemd crap running
dont know what to make of it
what are these?

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$ ps aux|grep systemd
root       402  0.1  0.1  16896  4608 ?        Ss   21:51   0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd --daemon
root      1916  0.0  0.0   5864  2936 ?        S    21:51   0:00 /sbin/cgmanager --daemon -m name=systemd
root      2608  0.0  0.1   7420  4644 ?        S    21:51   0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-logind
zz        4966  0.0  0.0   5136   840 pts/1    S+   22:04   0:00 grep systemd

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$  ps -eaf|grep '[s]ystemd'
root       402     1  0 21:51 ?        00:00:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd --daemon
root      1916     1  0 21:51 ?        00:00:00 /sbin/cgmanager --daemon -m name=systemd
root      2608     1  0 21:51 ?        00:00:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-logind
root      5466     1  0 22:10 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/systemd-shim
does this mean there are parts of systemd running?
or there are replacements
i like mxlinux, but a couple of times it didnt shutdown, even with sudo poweroff, had to force shutdown
i suspect it had something to do with those systemd processes :happy:

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Re: Sysvinit Future

#16 Post by Jerry3904 »

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Re: Sysvinit Future

#17 Post by Stevo »

Systemd is not running, but we still have parts of it available if the user chooses to boot with that option. Some programs, such as snapd, will require the user to boot with it.

https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/systemd

We are going to add this question to an upcoming MX FAQ, BTW.

got ninja'd by Jerry, too.

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Re: Sysvinit Future

#18 Post by dolphin_oracle »

systemd-udev is the old udev. its been absorbed into the systemd project, although it remains a separate package.

systemd-logind is a helper program that many apps require as a

I'm not sure that cgmanager is actually a systemd project app.
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