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Re: MX-17 Release Candidate 1 - Feedback

#151 Post by dolphin_oracle » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:18 pm

newguy wrote:I tried the MX 17-rc release and the one big problem I've run into is trying to work with Snap packages. The snapd package is in the repos, but when I install it, Snap fails to work. Any operation (snap find, snap install, etc) results in an error saying the server at a localhost cannot be contacted. Looks like the default Snap repo is probably not enabled.
boot in systemd mode thru the advanced menu. systemd is requird to be running for snap to operate.

I have run snap packages this way.
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#152 Post by Jerry3904 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:39 pm

I should add that to the next Manual
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#153 Post by skidoo » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:19 am

Live USB Maker creates Live USB thumb drives from MX and antiX isos. It does not usually work for other OS's
About a year ago, my testing indicated otherwise. For isohybrid ISOs distributed by other distros, Live USB Maker created a bootable pendrive for all except one (11of12 tested? or 9of10?). FWIW, I only tested "legacy boot" (not efi) and after posting or PMing to report successes, I did not keep copies-to-self notes.
The point of feedback here:
users probably need "dd mode" to include an intermediate step, providing an opportunity to repartition the target device.
interesting. dd usually wipes out partitions. is there something that needs zeroed out of something?
Yah, my sleepy brain needs zeroed out (or something!)
do-over:
"probably need an alternative to dd mode, one which provides an opportunity to repartition the target device."
(to accommodate use with ISOs from other distros, ability to choose partition labels, e.g. "casper-rw" or "persistence" would also be desirable)

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Re: MX-17 Release Candidate 1 - Feedback

#154 Post by asqwerth » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:12 am

skidoo wrote:
Live USB Maker creates Live USB thumb drives from MX and antiX isos. It does not usually work for other OS's
About a year ago, my testing indicated otherwise. For isohybrid ISOs distributed by other distros, Live USB Maker created a bootable pendrive for all except one (11of12 tested? or 9of10?). FWIW, I only tested "legacy boot" (not efi) and after posting or PMing to report successes, I did not keep copies-to-self notes.
Here's your post: viewtopic.php?p=397035#p397035
Looks like Refracta and Sparky worked. These are Devuan/Debian-based distros.

Same here, about a year ago, I tested MX Live USB maker with a few isos.

My post: viewtopic.php?p=398694#p398694
live-usb-maker:

It doesn't seems to work for all iso images, which I guess might be due to how a distro creates their iso.

1. slackel Openboxlive -- size =900+ MB -- when I tried to write it using l-u-m, it told me fat partition was not big enough, and stopped writing
2. peppermint: size=1.1 GB -- was able to write. Unable to boot using legacy USB option but when I chose the UEFI USB option from the boot order list, it booted up just fine
3. manjaro: size=1.6GB -- when I tried to write it using l-u-m, it told me fat partition was not big enough, and stopped writing

Based on the above, it might be that LUM works best with Debian/Ubuntu-based distros? It certainly isn't the iso file size since peppermint was larger than slackel.

In each case, I used the same 8GB thumb drive, wiped it clean, redid the partition table (msdos), and formatted the whole thumb drive as a single partition fat32 before running lum.
Bitjam's reply:

viewtopic.php?p=399002#p399002
It was designed to work with MX and antiX only/mostly. It creates a /root/.config/live-usb-maker/live-usb-maker.conf config file that could be altered to make it work with other distros. The idea was to do a good job with antiX and MX and try to make it flexible enough so people could easily tailor it for some/many other distros.

For example, cloning a running live system is only going to work for antiX and its decedents. But you might be able to get it to work with other distros by editing the config file.
In PM, he said that I could access live usb maker via CLI and change the size of the fat partition.
We make a small fat partition and copy over the /EFI and /boot directories to it. This allows the live-usb to boot via UEFI while still use an ext4 partition for the main live-usb. Our combined /EFI and /boot directories take only 14 Meg so I used 50 Meg as the default size for the fat partition.

The line to change in the config file is:

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FAT_SIZE="50"

I should probably make that size adapt automatically to what is needed. I didn't because I haven't run into this issue before.
You can adjust the size of the fat partition with the --esp-size=xx option where xx is the size in MiB.

I also pushed a small change that makes the size of the fat partition increase automatically if it is too small.
Unfortunately I don't think I ever got the time to test that solution.

But it looks possible in the case of Ubuntu and Debian-based distros.
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Re: MX-17 Release Candidate 1 - Feedback

#155 Post by Shay2 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:14 am

Congratulations, I like the desktop and the default Conky.
Vacation time is now past and catching up.

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 inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: mx17rc1 Kernel: 4.13.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 6.3.0
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.31) Distro: MX-17.RC1_x64 Horizon December 10, 2017
Machine:   Device: laptop System: Dell product: Latitude E6430 v: 01 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Dell model: 0H3MT5 v: A00 serial: N/A BIOS: Dell v: A17 date: 08/19/2015
Battery    BAT0: charge: 53.5 Wh 78.5% condition: 68.2/99.9 Wh (68%)
           model: LGC-LGC3.0 DELL J7KGM29 status: Discharging
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-3320M (-MT-MCP-) arch: Ivy Bridge rev.9 cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 10365
           clock speeds: max: 3300 MHz 1: 2591 MHz 2: 2591 MHz 3: 2591 MHz 4: 2591 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Card-2: NVIDIA GF108GLM [NVS 5200M] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.2 )
           drivers: modesetting,nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1600x900@59.99hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile
           version: 3.3 Mesa 13.0.6 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Def. Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-1-amd64
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection
           driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: f060 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 120.0GB (7.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: SSD2SC120G1CS175 size: 120.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 106G used: 4.3G (5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.69GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 50.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 193 Uptime: 5 min Memory: 377.1/7892.7MB
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 6.3.0 Client: Shell (bash 4.4.121) inxi: 2.3.53 

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Re: MX-17 Release Candidate 1 - Feedback

#156 Post by richb » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:42 am

skidoo wrote:
Live USB Maker creates Live USB thumb drives from MX and antiX isos. It does not usually work for other OS's
About a year ago, my testing indicated otherwise. For isohybrid ISOs distributed by other distros, Live USB Maker created a bootable pendrive for all except one (11of12 tested? or 9of10?). FWIW, I only tested "legacy boot" (not efi) and after posting or PMing to report successes, I did not keep copies-to-self notes.
Experiences vary. Perhaps I should have said some instead of most. I had problems with Netrunner and Kubuntu, I do not recall which versions.
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#157 Post by dr-kart » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:01 am

Do we have kind of regional settings here in xfce? (not just locale)
Both LibreOffice 5.4.3.2 40m0(Build:2) and OnlyOffice show letter as default paper size. Inches as units.

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#158 Post by vamsi » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:57 am

Can we Expect MX -17 by christmas as christmas gift :happy: :happy:

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#159 Post by richb » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:00 am

vamsi wrote:Can we Expect MX -17 by christmas as christmas gift :happy: :happy:
Santa does not reveal his secrets. But the elfs are planning on it. (Or is it elves?)
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#160 Post by vamsi » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:05 am

richb wrote:
vamsi wrote:Can we Expect MX -17 by christmas as christmas gift :happy: :happy:
Santa does not reveal his secrets. But the elfs are planning on it. (Or is it elves?)
Ya :happy: :eek: :p

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