MX-17 Beta 3 Feedback

[vamsi]

My suggestions regarding MX Apt-notifier :-

First of all change the name to MX- Updater or MX-Update manager like that apt-notifier seems to be weird name i think

Second in the apt-notifier there is no option to select the updates which only we want to install we were forced to installed all the founded updates i think it is not cool way if we can select the which updates we want it will be much more accessible

Third change the names on apt-notifier i.e. apt-get-dist-upgrade to like upgrade or some thing like that which is under stable to newbie also and change the reload button name to check for updates like that and other one to switch something like that

Fourth when there are no updates when we left click on the apt-notifier synaptic package manager is opening sometimes it is kind of irritating me we can open synaptic package manager directly but some times it is opening like that

Hope you will make some changes in these and make MX- Linux more accessible to the community..

Thanks..
Best Regards,
Vamsi.

Some things to consider here, thanks.

Thanks jerry

[MX<3]

My suggestions regarding MX Apt-notifier :-

First of all change the name to MX- Updater or MX-Update manager like that apt-notifier seems to be weird name i think

Second in the apt-notifier there is no option to select the updates which only we want to install we were forced to installed all the founded updates i think it is not cool way if we can select the which updates we want it will be much more accessible

Third change the names on apt-notifier i.e. apt-get-dist-upgrade to like upgrade or some thing like that which is under stable to newbie also and change the reload button name to check for updates like that and other one to switch something like that

Fourth when there are no updates when we left click on the apt-notifier synaptic package manager is opening sometimes it is kind of irritating me we can open synaptic package manager directly but some times it is opening like that

Hope you will make some changes in these and make MX- Linux more accessible to the community..

Thanks..
Best Regards,
Vamsi.

Some things to consider here, thanks.

There is something interesting to me here, too. I know we can lock an application version in Synaptic but how about:-

Adding the ability in Apt-Notifier? When we click Apt-Notifier, after being notified of updates, there is a tick box next to non-core applications. If ticked, the version installed will be kept.

Apt-Notifier then remembers this preference and doesn't mention any update for that application again. When other updates are available and Apt-Notifier is opened, those kept back versions are there, with the toggle-tick-box still.

Showing the 'This Version is installed' and 'This Version is available' info. Kinda like in Apt-History:

xserver-xorg-video-nouveau amd64 1:1.0.12-2mx150+1 1:1.0.13-1mx150+1

And then we can keep or install/update applications, however we like, very easily.

There is a Console Command that Force Locks an Application Version, right? Easy enough to add this?

What d'you think?

[dolphin_oracle]

My suggestions regarding MX Apt-notifier :-

First of all change the name to MX- Updater or MX-Update manager like that apt-notifier seems to be weird name i think

Second in the apt-notifier there is no option to select the updates which only we want to install we were forced to installed all the founded updates i think it is not cool way if we can select the which updates we want it will be much more accessible

Third change the names on apt-notifier i.e. apt-get-dist-upgrade to like upgrade or some thing like that which is under stable to newbie also and change the reload button name to check for updates like that and other one to switch something like that

Fourth when there are no updates when we left click on the apt-notifier synaptic package manager is opening sometimes it is kind of irritating me we can open synaptic package manager directly but some times it is opening like that

Hope you will make some changes in these and make MX- Linux more accessible to the community..

Thanks..
Best Regards,
Vamsi.

Some things to consider here, thanks.

There is something interesting to me here, too. I know we can lock an application version in Synaptic but how about:-

Adding the ability in Apt-Notifier? When we click Apt-Notifier, after being notified of updates, there is a tick box next to non-core applications. If ticked, the version installed will be kept.

Apt-Notifier then remembers this preference and doesn't mention any update for that application again. When other updates are available and Apt-Notifier is opened, those kept back versions are there, with the toggle-tick-box still.

Showing the 'This Version is installed' and 'This Version is available' info. Kinda like in Apt-History:

xserver-xorg-video-nouveau amd64 1:1.0.12-2mx150+1 1:1.0.13-1mx150+1

And then we can keep or install/update applications, however we like, very easily.

There is a Console Command that Force Locks an Application Version, right? Easy enough to add this?

What d'you think?

Not particularly easy, especially considering that Synaptic already does all that rather well.

Plus when debian updates you'll be presented with a million options.

[Jerry3904]

I am getting an error when I try to run smxi or any relative:

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url failed with wget error

Is it working for others?

[asqwerth]

I think @vamsi's and MX<3's suggestions for more granular control over individual updateable packages in apt-notifier defeats the purpose that it, and MX, is meant to be newcomer-friendly. The whole point of apt-notifier (and I agree with vamsi that the name could be clearer and more obvious for newcomers) is that it is a quick way to update your whole system with a click.

A user knowledgeable enough to choose which packages to update or not, and even which packages to pin to an older version, can do these things from Synaptic or terminal. And Synaptic is accessible from the right click context menu of the Notifier.

I feel the Notifier itself should be kept simple and straightforward. Any improvements should be focused on simplicity and clarity for the newcomer rather than additional complexity (esp when we are referring to functionality that duplicates what can already be done in Synaptic).

This is my own opinion, of course.

[kmathern]

I am getting an error when I try to run smxi or any relative:

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url failed with wget error

Is it working for others?

That's an error with the smxi/sgfxi/svmi/inxi stub installer (does anyone use svmi ?) in the /usr/sbin folder.

Below are the urls, the smxi.org urls all throw a 403 error, the inxi throws a 404 error.

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    42	DOWNLOAD_URL_INXI='http://inxi.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/'
    43	DOWNLOAD_URL_SGFXI='http://smxi.org/sg/'
    44	DOWNLOAD_URL_SMXI='http://smxi.org/sm/'
    45	DOWNLOAD_URL_SVMI='http://smxi.org/sv/'

How much room are we saving using the stub installer and not having the full scripts loaded on the iso ?

[Jerry3904]

I feel the Notifier itself should be kept simple and straightforward.

+1

[arjaybe]

I think @vamsi's and MX<3's suggestions for more granular control over individual updateable packages in apt-notifier defeats the purpose that it, and MX, is meant to be newcomer-friendly. The whole point of apt-notifier (and I agree with vamsi that the name could be clearer and more obvious for newcomers) is that it is a quick way to update your whole system with a click.

A user knowledgeable enough to choose which packages to update or not, and even which packages to pin to an older version, can do these things from Synaptic or terminal. And Synaptic is accessible from the right click context menu of the Notifier.

I feel the Notifier itself should be kept simple and straightforward. Any improvements should be focused on simplicity and clarity for the newcomer rather than additional complexity (esp when we are referring to functionality that duplicates what can already be done in Synaptic).

This is my own opinion, of course.

I agree with this. Keep it simple at the desktop level.

[richb]

I feel the Notifier itself should be kept simple and straightforward.

+1

Simple.

[Paul..]

I am getting an error when I try to run smxi or any relative:

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url failed with wget error

Is it working for others?

working fine here...HDD install fully updated b3