Raises some interesting questions for us...Hi everyone,
I recently signed up as Release Manager for Xfce 4.14 and am happy to
provide you with some concrete dates for the upcoming weeks and months,
including the announcement of the final date for the 4.14 release.
=== General Notes ===
First of all, we will stick to our official release mode (
https://www.xfce.org/about/releasemodel) also for this release, which means
we will tag each of the three (at least: two) pre-releases - in addition to
the 4.13.x devel release tag - in all git repositories that are part of the
core (example: xfce-4.14pre1). Hopefully this will make it clear which
versions belong to a specific pre-release of 4.14 and will help with
testing the platform as a whole.
This information is especially important to packagers as we have skipped
this step since Xfce 4.8.
=== The Schedule ===
After some internal discussions we have come to the following schedule
(more details here: https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.14/roadmap):
19th of May: 4.14-pre1
30th of June: 4.14-pre2
28th of July: 4.14-pre3 (optional; possibly also 4.14-final)
11th of August: 4.14-final
=== How can you help? ===
If you're a developer it's quite clear: clear your schedule, commit
yourself and your code!
In all seriousness: almost anyone can help! We'll try to provide a Docker
container of xfce-test (https://github.com/schuellerf/xfce-test) for each
of the pre-releases which can help with testing (and reporting bugs), doing
translations, screenshots, docs etc.
Moral support (on IRC or one of the mailing lists) also counts!
Cheers
Simon
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Release details for Xfce-14.4
Release details for Xfce-14.4
This was posted today on the Xfce Dev mailing list:
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Re: Release details for Xfce-14.4
not for me...get it in when its ready. I doubt we have a 19 by then anyway.
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Re: Release details for Xfce-14.4
It does for me. Are we, for instance, going to package the *pre versions Simon talks about and make them available in the MX Test Repo? It seems to me that might be both useful and good strategy.
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Re: Release details for Xfce-14.4
Not sure about making the pre-versions available in the test repo. Even though we have cautions about using the test repo they are often ignored. How about packaging and putting them in the experimental repo for dev testing and not exposing them, at least initially, to the community?
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Re: Release details for Xfce-14.4
I think we would gain a lot by making them available to the community--many of our competitors are already advertising Xfce 4.13. But in any case that is just a FOR-INSTANCE of the questions I mentioned in OP.
EDIT: it would also involve the highest rated Xfce implementation become involved in the testing phase with a particular emphasis characteristic of MX on user experience.
EDIT: it would also involve the highest rated Xfce implementation become involved in the testing phase with a particular emphasis characteristic of MX on user experience.
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Re: Release details for Xfce-14.4
if we want them in the test repo for mx18, that fine. I mean, some 4.13 stuff is in there already. but I don't want to push it out to mx17/18 users.
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Re: Release details for Xfce-14.4
I am happy (beyond happy even) to act as a tester. I am happy to just use the DE, daily; run specific test scenarios; download from controlled repos or whatever might work.
If I might be so bold as to suggest an idea... here it comes without awaiting permission. I think establishing and requesting volunteers/ testers stress or test certain critical functions/ scenarios/ aspects of 4.14 would prove to be valuable and make for a lower-risk roll-out into production.
But, you are already probably planning for that...
If I might be so bold as to suggest an idea... here it comes without awaiting permission. I think establishing and requesting volunteers/ testers stress or test certain critical functions/ scenarios/ aspects of 4.14 would prove to be valuable and make for a lower-risk roll-out into production.
But, you are already probably planning for that...
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Re: Release details for Xfce-14.4
Will be interesting to see 14.4 in its final form. Xfce has a loyal and strong following.
Re: Release details for Xfce-14.4
Another choice is to stick them for a while in an OBS repository, like we did for the proposed updates for MX 18.
4.14 may be out before Buster is released, which means that Debian packagers may not have time to add it to Sid for a while. But that could give us time to add it to MX 19 for its release.
4.14 may be out before Buster is released, which means that Debian packagers may not have time to add it to Sid for a while. But that could give us time to add it to MX 19 for its release.
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Re: Release details for Xfce-14.4
Will it upgrade or do we have to install it? I have both MX and AntiX with Xfce.
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