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Trying to install via usb and dvd-rw [Solved]

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Trying to install via usb and dvd-rw [Solved]

#1 Post by danielson » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:13 am

I've installed many a times MX via usb using Rufus but as of late, the last 3 or 4 copied isos don't do so good.
MX takes forever to boot and then clicking on install gets me nowhere.
Yesterday, i downloaded the KDE version, burned it to dvd-rw with Etcher, same thing.
Could it be a bunch of corrupt files?

Albeit, never bother to check mds (or whatever) just as i never really bother with any distro.
Mostly on account of uncertainty on how to do it.
Still, can it happen to have more than 4 corrupt downloads?
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Re: Trying to install via usb and dvd-rw

#2 Post by chrispop99 » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:30 am

Section 2.2.2 of the User Manual will show you how to check the MD5, and that should be your first step.

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Re: Trying to install via usb and dvd-rw

#3 Post by fehlix » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:35 am

danielson wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:13 am
Albeit, never bother to check mds (or whatever) just as i never really bother with any distro.
I assume there are some good reasons for checking the integrity of the downloaded iso.
The minimum you shall do whenever you download an iso is to verify with the provided checksum,
that the file saved on you disk is not corrupted / manipulated.
Personally I do highly recommend do verify with help of the signature if provided,
as this will also prove that the iso is not manipulated.
Other simply reason for corruption you shall not forget to take into account are bad sectors on you drive.
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Re: Trying to install via usb and dvd-rw

#4 Post by danielson » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:45 am

Okay.

If i download other distros like recent tries with Q4OS and LinuxMint, there were no issues.
Must be corrupt files.
Will proceed at learning how to check checksum.
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Re: Trying to install via usb and dvd-rw

#5 Post by fehlix » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:59 am

danielson wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:45 am
Will proceed at learning how to check checksum.
To add: md5-checksum verification is not sufficient to check that the iso is not manipulated (on the server or on the wire).
It's just as a pure man's check for file corruption - not more.
If possible use better checksums like sha1 or sha256, if provided, as they are more resistant against manipulation of the iso.
Or just "learn" how to do the signature verification - and you are good :happy:
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Re: Trying to install via usb and dvd-rw

#6 Post by danielson » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:04 am

Well, first things first!
Did install WinMD5, loaded the MX KDE iso to check and a checksum finally appears.
Now what?
Have the md5 file on desktop but where or what do i do with it?
Windows has no app to open it.
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Re: Trying to install via usb and dvd-rw

#7 Post by danielson » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:20 am

Okay, notepad opens md5 file and it matches.
Will try again with Rufus 3.3
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Re: Trying to install via usb and dvd-rw

#8 Post by fehlix » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:21 am

danielson wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:04 am
Well, first things first!
Did install WinMD5, loaded the MX KDE iso to check and a checksum finally appears.
Now what?
Have the md5 file on desktop but where or what do i do with it?
Windows has no app to open it.
I don't use WinMD5.
General steps are:
Get the iso and the checksum from the source.
Compare the calculated checksum with the one provided from the source.
The comparison can be made manually (you compare)
Or the checksum-verifiycation tool does it for you. If both match, checksum-verified"

If you have the md5-file, which is just a little text-file,
you can use the content by just opening it with a normal text editor,
and compare manually.
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Re: Trying to install via usb and dvd-rw

#9 Post by dolphin_oracle » Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:50 am

danielson wrote:
Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:13 am
I've installed many a times MX via usb using Rufus but as of late, the last 3 or 4 copied isos don't do so good.
MX takes forever to boot and then clicking on install gets me nowhere.
Yesterday, i downloaded the KDE version, burned it to dvd-rw with Etcher, same thing.
Could it be a bunch of corrupt files?

Albeit, never bother to check mds (or whatever) just as i never really bother with any distro.
Mostly on account of uncertainty on how to do it.
Still, can it happen to have more than 4 corrupt downloads?
as a data point, can you test using just the mx17.1 Original Release iso, Dated March 2018.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
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Re: Trying to install via usb and dvd-rw

#10 Post by danielson » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:16 pm

@dolphin_oracle - thank you, will try that 'cause latest trial still did not do the trick.

Can i still install KDE after?
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