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Installing MX17.1 on a Dell XPS 15?

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Installing MX17.1 on a Dell XPS 15?

#1 Post by fladd » Mon May 28, 2018 11:51 am

Hi there,

did anyone successfully install MX on an XPS 15 yet? This is the first device I encountered that has UEFI. I installed Linux on machines with a normal bios hundreds of times, but I just don't seem to grasp this new UEFI stuff. First of all, I can only make MX boot, if I switch to legacy mode (see also viewtopic.php?f=92&t=44531). Then, however, Windows will not boot anymore (it is a work laptop, Windows needs to stay on there). So, once I booted MX (in legacy mode), how do I go about to install it, such that it will later (from disk) boot using UEFI, such that Windows also works? Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: Installing MX17.1 on a Dell XPS 15?

#2 Post by Jerry3904 » Mon May 28, 2018 12:25 pm

There's a detailed Wiki entry on this. I'm on my phone but if you search the Wiki for UEFI you will find it, or start with the Users Manual.
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Re: Installing MX17.1 on a Dell XPS 15?

#3 Post by uncle mark » Mon May 28, 2018 1:27 pm

Re-enable UEFI boot, but disable Secure Boot. Windows should still boot and MX should install.
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Re: Installing MX17.1 on a Dell XPS 15?

#4 Post by fladd » Mon May 28, 2018 6:49 pm

So, boot the USB stick in legacy mode, then install MX to hard disk (will this install it to UEFI?), and then reboot from disk, but first change to UEFI boot and disable Secure Boot?

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Re: Installing MX17.1 on a Dell XPS 15?

#5 Post by uncle mark » Mon May 28, 2018 7:08 pm

fladd wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 6:49 pm
So, boot the USB stick in legacy mode, then install MX to hard disk (will this install it to UEFI?), and then reboot from disk, but first change to UEFI boot and disable Secure Boot?
No. Get into the BIOS (actually it's now called the EFI), set it to UEFI Mode and disable Secure Boot. Also set the boot order to boot to USB devise before HDD. Leave it that way. Windows does not require Secure Boot to work, but it will require UEFI Mode. MX should still boot with UEFI Mode enabled.
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Re: Installing MX17.1 on a Dell XPS 15?

#6 Post by curtvaughan » Mon May 28, 2018 7:09 pm

I have a Dell XPS-13/9360 which is triple booted with Ubuntu, Arcolinux, and MX17.1. It was the "developer" edition and came with Ubuntu pre-installed, so Linux compatibility was never an issue. I'm running it with EFI and have no issues. Just be sure, as someone else stated, to disable secure boot. As with most Dells, hit the F12 key to get into the boot options and boot off the USB live ISO for installation. I've had no issues at all. Since the XPS-15 doesn't have a developer edition, you'll either need to install over the pre-installed Windows or repartition your drive for a multi-boot. I've no use for Windows these days, so haven't dealt with Windows living with Linux in a multiboot configuration. If you should run into problems and/or have success, hope you can post updates, as I've not heard much about XPS-15 Linux compatibility issues.

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Re: Installing MX17.1 on a Dell XPS 15?

#7 Post by fladd » Tue May 29, 2018 5:28 pm

uncle mark wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 7:08 pm
fladd wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 6:49 pm
So, boot the USB stick in legacy mode, then install MX to hard disk (will this install it to UEFI?), and then reboot from disk, but first change to UEFI boot and disable Secure Boot?
No. Get into the BIOS (actually it's now called the EFI), set it to UEFI Mode and disable Secure Boot. Also set the boot order to boot to USB devise before HDD. Leave it that way. Windows does not require Secure Boot to work, but it will require UEFI Mode. MX should still boot with UEFI Mode enabled.
But my XPS 15 only boots in legacy mode: viewtopic.php?f=92&t=44531. That is why I asked how to properly install MX on this specific machine.

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Re: Installing MX17.1 on a Dell XPS 15?

#8 Post by Stevo » Tue May 29, 2018 5:35 pm

Some other tips I've seen include to disable fast boot in BIOS if you see the option. If it still has trouble, you might look on the Ubuntu forums to see if there are any more tricks that are necessary, or else the Arch wiki.

I just reinstalled 17.1 on an 2016 Acer E5 575G laptop. The Live USB will boot, run, and install with secure boot enabled, but it must be disabled for an installed version. I also had to set a BIOS password before Security options to add a trusted EFI file were enabled, so then I could add the MX17EFI file. After that, I had to move the MX17 efi boot option to the top of the boot order under the Boot section.

For some reason, the Windows boot manager did not appear on the GRUB menu until I ran "sudo update-grub" in MX. After that, it appeared, so I have options to also boot to Win10 or into the BIOS setup from GRUB.

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Re: Installing MX17.1 on a Dell XPS 15?

#9 Post by rich » Tue May 29, 2018 5:42 pm

fladd wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 11:51 am
This is the first device I encountered that has UEFI... I just don't seem to grasp this new UEFI stuff. First of all, I can only make MX boot, if I switch to legacy mode... however, Windows will not boot anymore... So, once I booted MX (in legacy mode), how do I go about to install it, such that it will later (from disk) boot using UEFI, such that Windows also works?
Jerry3904 wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 12:25 pm
There's a detailed Wiki entry on this
Fladd, did you get a chance to check the wiki?

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Re: Installing MX17.1 on a Dell XPS 15?

#10 Post by Stevo » Tue May 29, 2018 5:51 pm

fladd wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:28 pm
uncle mark wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 7:08 pm
fladd wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 6:49 pm
So, boot the USB stick in legacy mode, then install MX to hard disk (will this install it to UEFI?), and then reboot from disk, but first change to UEFI boot and disable Secure Boot?
No. Get into the BIOS (actually it's now called the EFI), set it to UEFI Mode and disable Secure Boot. Also set the boot order to boot to USB devise before HDD. Leave it that way. Windows does not require Secure Boot to work, but it will require UEFI Mode. MX should still boot with UEFI Mode enabled.
But my XPS 15 only boots in legacy mode: viewtopic.php?f=92&t=44531. That is why I asked how to properly install MX on this specific machine.
I've has success using Rufus on Windows to create MX sticks that boot with UEFI. Make sure to use the recommended GPT option.

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