MX is slow after lqast update

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kmathern
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Re: MX is slow after lqast update

#31 Post by kmathern »

Ocalasun wrote:$ lspci -nn|grep -i VGA
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series] [1002:9712]
HD 4200 would need to use the fglrx-legacy-driver if you wanted to use the proprietary driver.
Unfortunately the legacy driver hasn't been updated in about a year and a half and doesn't support the 3.12 series kernel that MX-14 is using, I think it only supports up to about a 3.8 kernel.


The stock Xorg radeon driver hasn't been updated since before MX-14 was released, but you might try using sgfxi to reinstall it anyway.
Boot to level 3 and run:

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sgfxi -n -z
The '-n' option is to have sgfxi install the correct "native" xorg driver (radeon).
The '-z' option is to have it backup the existing xorg.conf (if there is one) and recreate a new one.

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Re: MX is slow after lqast update

#32 Post by Ocalasun »

Thanks again...important info to know. All my desktops have nvidia hardware and I never have had a problem. Stuck with what I got in this laptop, so I'll have to deal with this Radeon work-around.

I'll try what you suggested.

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Re: MX is slow after lqast update

#33 Post by anticapitalista »

You could try installing the latest 3.14.0-bpo kernel and see if that works better with the upgraded xorg.
Make sure you use the one with bpo in its title.
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Re: MX is slow after lqast update

#34 Post by Ocalasun »

I think you may be on to something there, anticapitalista. I'll be trying that, also downloading anti-x13.2 as we speak.

I ran a test using Sparky Linux off a usb stick, which is very similar to my MX-14 setup. Sparky 3.1 (debian testing) uses a 3.14 kernel and xorg 1.16

Xfce4 desktop with conky & wbar so almost identical to my MX-14 setup.

idle desktop was 2-4 percent and cpu temp @ 89c compared to mx-14 which is 15-2 percent and cpu @ 95c

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Re: MX is slow after lqast update

#35 Post by caprea »

For me updating to the latest 3.14.0-bpo kernel worked.
But i did not have the problem with the cpu -usage.Here the problem since last upgrade of xserver-xorg-video-intel was
that direct rendering was lost.Saw it today first time when trying to play a game.
With the new kernel everythings allright.

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Graphics:  Card: Intel Haswell Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0412
           Display Server: X.Org 1.12.4 drivers: fbdev,vesa (unloaded: intel)
           Resolution: 1280x1024@0.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209)
           GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5 Direct Rendering: Yes

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Re: MX is slow after lqast update

#36 Post by caprea »

I`ll have to take this back.
The new xserver-xorg-video-intel doesn`t work with my video-card.Not with the new 3.14.0-bpo kernel or with the old kernel.Rendering stays lost.Have downgraded it to the wheezy and set to hold.

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 apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel
xserver-xorg-video-intel:
  Installiert:           2:2.19.0-6
  Installationskandidat: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1
  Versionstabelle:
     2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1 0
        500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports/main i386 Packages
 *** 2:2.19.0-6 0
        500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Don`t know why it first seems to work for one day.

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Re: MX is slow after lqast update

#37 Post by Ocalasun »

I am now running the 3.14-0-bpo kernel, per anticapitalista's suggestion. Desktop seems a little peppier, but xorg cpu usage at idle is still 15 percent, minimum.

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Re: MX is slow after lqast update

#38 Post by tojape »

Hi to all,
yesterday I installed MX-14.3 on a pretty old HP machine. Compared to my former version (MX-14.2) it was terribly slow especially when someting changed on the display.
I followed the instructions in Post # 348803 downgrading 'xserver-xorg-video-intel' and now it works fine. (many thanks to kmathern!) Here is the relevant info of my machine:

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tjp@mx1:~
$ inxi -Gxx
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2572
           Display Server: X.Org 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x768@60.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 1.3 Mesa 8.0.5 Direct Rendering: Yes
tjp@mx1:~
$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel
xserver-xorg-video-intel:
  Installed: 2:2.19.0-6
  Candidate: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1
  Version table:
     2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports/main i386 Packages
 *** 2:2.19.0-6 0
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
tjp@mx1:~
$ uname -a
Linux mx1 3.14-0.bpo.2-486 #1 Debian 3.14.15-2~bpo70+1 (2014-08-21) i686 GNU/Linux
tjp@mx1:~
$ lscpu
Architecture:          i686
CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit
Byte Order:            Little Endian
CPU(s):                1
On-line CPU(s) list:   0
Thread(s) per core:    1
Core(s) per socket:    1
Socket(s):             1
Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
CPU family:            15
Model:                 3
Stepping:              3
CPU MHz:               2527.151
BogoMIPS:              5054.30
L1d cache:             16K
L2 cache:              256K
tjp@mx1:~
$

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