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Re: MX-14 beta 2

#361 Post by chrispop99 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:08 am

Eadwine Rose wrote: Mind.. how do I find out the xfce version on this system? I have googled but xfce4-about won't work and the package cannot be found in synaptic.
The package you need to install is:

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libxfce4ui-utils
It's a bit of an over-kill; it shows a pane with lots of other information on it.

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32-bit non-PAE - Thinkpad T41, 1.6GHz Pentium M, 1GB RAM.
32-bit PAE - DELL Latitude D610, 1.73GHz Pentium M, 2GB RAM.
64-bit - Lenovo T61, 2GHz Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM
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Re: MX-14 beta 2

#362 Post by BitJam » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:40 am

Eadwine Rose wrote:Mind.. how do I find out the xfce version on this system? I have googled but xfce4-about won't work and the package cannot be found in synaptic.
From a terminal, run:

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xfwm4 -V; xfdesktop -V

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Re: MX-14 beta 2

#363 Post by Eadwine Rose » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:57 am

That works! Thanks :D

Love how it gives me two version numbers for them hehe

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$ xfwm4 -V
	This is xfwm4 version 4.10.1 (revision 3918e6b) for Xfce 4.10
	Released under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
	Compiled against GTK+-2.24.10, using GTK+-2.24.10.

	Build configuration and supported features:
	- Startup notification support:                 Yes
	- XSync support:                                Yes
	- Render support:                               Yes
	- Xrandr support:                               Yes
	- Embedded compositor:                          Yes
	- KDE systray proxy (deprecated):               No

$ xfdesktop -V
This is xfdesktop version 4.10.2, running on Xfce 4.10.
Built with GTK+ 2.24.10, linked with GTK+ 2.24.10.
Build options:
    Desktop Menu:        enabled
    Desktop Icons:       enabled
    Desktop File Icons:  enabled
Is 4.10.1 the base and the desktop version what runs on it?
Just trying to graps what is what :smile:


Also.. we are not running Xfce on this thing then?
Honestly, I am suddenly thoroughly confused about the namings :laugh:
Oh wait we are.. Xfce 4.10 is the Xfce version
xfwm4... :confused:


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Oh man can someone just give me the explanation for all these namings so even the stupid (read: me) can grasp it?
MX-17.1_x64 Horizon 14-3-2018 * 4.15.0-1-amd64 ext4 Xfce 4.12.3 * AMD Asus M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 * ASUS GF GT640-1GD5-L NVIDIA 384.130 * AMD Proc. Athl II X4 635, sAM3 * HDA ATI SB VT1708S An * 2x4Gb DDR3 1600 Kingst * 22" Samsung SyncM P2250 * HP F2280

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Re: MX-14 beta 2

#364 Post by BitJam » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:09 am

xfwm4
The Xfce 4 Window Manager is part of the Xfce Desktop Environment. The actual command to run is xfwm4. To run it in the background use xfwm4 –daemon. The window manager is responsible for the placement of windows on the screen, provides the window decorations and allows you for instance to move, resize or close them.

xfdesktop
The xfdesktop application manages the desktop backdrop. It sets a backdrop image and/or color and it can pop up an applications menu and a list of all running applications when you click on the desktop with the right or middle mouse button respectively. As of Xfce 4.4, xfdesktop also draws icons on the desktop.

So they are both components of the XFCE Desktop Environment. Here is a List of the Core Components.

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Re: MX-14 beta 2

#365 Post by golden45 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:58 am

Just enabled testing repos and upgraded mx14.I then installed kde 4.8 using meta package installer and upgraded to kde 4.11 .Then installed lxde using meta package installer .I'm switching between the three systems with no problems
I'm seeing all systems running together with each system.Seems like they all are all compitable using testing repos.I logout and login selecting which system I want to run logout- login with no problems.Adding upgraded packages using synaptic with each system .

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Re: MX-14 beta 2

#366 Post by golden45 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:59 pm

Used synaptic to upgrade kde 4.11-5 while using mx-14.You can also use it to install updates.Apt notification is on the bar of mx-14 and reads updates of packages of the three systems.Still running the three of them.Lcde with kde games installed you have to use other in menu to get them all to work-some of them work by just using menu,Its mind blowing what you can do.

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Re: MX-14 beta 2

#367 Post by jsalpha2 » Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:01 pm

I made a live USB from within Win 7 using Rufus. Everything is working, including Flash on YouTube.
My question is in the boot options I have three choices for persistence; root, static, and home.
I read this thread, but I'm still confused. http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 1&start=30
I'm using a 16GB Sandisk flash drive. I think I should start at step 6.
6. At usb boot menu screen choose root persistence
7. You will be prompted for a new root and user password
8. In desktop, use the meta-installer(Synaptic?) to install a couple of apps eg Clementine, minitube (nothing too big)
9. DO NOT REBOT FROM THE MENU. For changes to save on next boot, you MUST run the Remastercc application -> Save root persistence.
10. Once that has finished, reboot as usual and again choose root persistence in the menu.
11. You should now have the apps you installed in 8 in the menu.
I plan to use the live USB for a while and then try an install on an old Thinkpad. Wish me lck.

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Re: MX-14 beta 2

#368 Post by dolphin_oracle » Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:34 am

have you made a persistence file. they are not set up by default. use remastercc in the menu to set up a persistence file on your liveusb. Then you can select one of the persistence options at boot and install any app you like.

I generally set up root persistence. this will keep all the apps you install and information in your home folder.

static is good if you don't have a lot of ram...it wills save all changes as you make them.

the other pesistence option will save all changes into ram and then save to the persistence file either on demand or at logout.

with either option, you can use remastercc to incorporate any changes into the usb filesystem, lessening the demands on you ram.

check out the help (the big question mark on the toolbar). there is a persistence section.
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FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

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Re: MX-14 beta 2

#369 Post by Jerry3904 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:56 am

check out the help (the big question mark on the toolbar). there is a persistence section.
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Re: MX-14 beta 2

#370 Post by jsalpha2 » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:17 pm

I've read the persistence section in the help (big question mark on the toolbar). I've read the thread I already mentioned. I've googled until I'm blue in the face.
The original problem was Rufus marking the USB as read only. I've reformatted and used Unetbootin about 6 times. After using remastercc to create a persistence file
and then trying to re-start the computer, it asks me to log back in, won't accept any password, then crashes, when the computer restarts the USB is no longer recognized. Re-format and repeat,
same outcome.

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