update-notifier and -manager

[Adrian]

Can somebody tell me how much we save if we use pygtk vs pyqt? If it's worthy than I will try to change the apt-notifiler to pygtk...

[kmathern]

Can somebody tell me how much we save if we use pygtk vs pyqt? If it's worthy than I will try to change the apt-notifiler to pygtk...

I'm back in my sid install now:

Here's what I think you would save by eliminating the libqt* packages and python-qt4. I'm not including libqtwebkit4, because if we swap out midori for qupzilla, it has libqtwebkit4 as a dependency:

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apt-cache show python-qt4 libqt4-declarative libqt4-help libqt4-scripttools libqt4-test libqtassistantclient4 | grep ^Installed-Size | awk '{print $2}' | paste -sd+ - | bc
18812

If we stick with midori you can also remove libqtwebkit4:

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apt-cache show python-qt4 libqt4-declarative libqt4-help libqt4-scripttools libqt4-test libqtassistantclient4 libqtwebkit4 | grep ^Installed-Size | awk '{print $2}' | paste -sd+ - | bc
42599

The totals are for the sid versions, they may be slightly different for wheezy.
I'm grepping the "Installed-Size:" line from the apt-cache show <pkgname> command, I imagine when they're compressed in the iso image that they'll take maybe 1/3 of the amount.


Any idea what extra gtk stuff would be pulled in with a pygtk apt-notifier?

[Jerry3904]

If we stick with midori

We are already switching everything to qupzilla now...

[Adrian]

Any idea what extra gtk stuff would be pulled in with a pygtk apt-notifier?

python-gtk2 is already installed, there are many things that depend on it: bleachbit, catfish, system-config-printer, etc.

So, is it 18812 (KB right?) worthy to start to translate apt-notifier to pygtk?

[kmathern]

...So, is it 18812 (KB right?) worthy to start to translate apt-notifier to pygtk?

Yes it's KB, but I don't think we save that much when it's compressed in the iso image. I'm guessing we would save maybe 6MB.

[Adrian]

...So, is it 18812 (KB right?) worthy to start to translate apt-notifier to pygtk?

Yes it's KB, but I don't think we save that much when it's compressed in the iso image. I'm guessing we would save maybe 6MB.

I think that for 6MB it's too much of pain to learn pygtk from scratch and possible introduce bugs in the script...

[anticapitalista]

Replacing midori with qupzilla makes the iso 698MB (from 696MB)

[kmathern]

...So, is it 18812 (KB right?) worthy to start to translate apt-notifier to pygtk?

Yes it's KB, but I don't think we save that much when it's compressed in the iso image. I'm guessing we would save maybe 6MB.

I think that for 6MB it's too much of pain to learn pygtk from scratch and possible introduce bugs in the script...

If the apt-notifier was the only thing using qt4 it would make sense to try come up with a pygtk version. But we have at least two other qt4 apps that I'm aware of, qupzilla and qpdfview.

[Stevo]

If the apt-notifier was the only thing using qt4 it would make sense to try come up with a pygtk version. But we have at least two other qt4 apps that I'm aware of, qupzilla and qpdfview.

As well as the MEPIS tools and installer...