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Big mistake, big, huge, started Windows

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Re: Big mistake, big, huge, started Windows

#11 Post by timkb4cq » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:49 am

I keep a Win7 install to do my taxes - in a VirtualBox VM. Automatic updates are turned off. Since it's in a VM I can run them manually without bring everything else to a crawl.
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Re: Big mistake, big, huge, started Windows

#12 Post by uncle mark » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:33 am

From my experience (which is minimal with W10), it's possible to control updates of W7 but not really possible/practical with W10. If the W10 load isn't in regular use, and you have to bring it up to date from a distant point in time, you're not going to be able to avoid what Mike is going through. I like rubbing that in at my workplace. I recently loaded up an old laptop with MX17 to provide email & Internet access to a group leader on the production floor; the whole process took maybe 20 minutes, start to finish.

[Aside -- Meanwhile, one of our sales people spent most of the afternoon recovering his Outlook email after yet another fubar (our sales manager insists that his people use "professional software"). While I'm the unofficial in house techie, I can't/won't support Outlook; I've got everyone else using Portable Thunderbird, and never hear from them.]
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Re: Big mistake, big, huge, started Windows

#13 Post by frenzy67 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:52 am

my own laptops are linux , but i do have a windows 7 pc for the mrs, she plays hidden object and dash games which i have never been able to get running on linux. when i upgraded the pc i stated no operating system as i intended to install windows 7. BUT the shop decided they would install windows 10. needless to say it lasted roughly 3 days and i ditched it. it was to total mess
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Re: Big mistake, big, huge, started Windows

#14 Post by Stevo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:00 pm

I haven't started up my Win10 with my laptop connected to the Net since the first week of January, when the Meltdown and Spectre news first leaked out. I also shudder to think what's going to happen when I do.

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Re: Big mistake, big, huge, started Windows

#15 Post by dreamer » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:48 pm

I used to like Windows. Now it's like I have lost a longtime friend. I started with Windows 95. The biggest issue is that I no longer trust Microsoft. Crazy release model, OS-wide keylogger, automatic updates, lots of preinstalled bloatware, list goes on...

I still think even Windows 10 has a few nice touches, but my conclusion is that it's not worth my time. Now, let us hope Linux doesn't encounter the same fate. I'm 50/50 about whether Debian can be trusted. They did switch to systemd which is set to start apt (check for updates) at boot unless I'm mistaken. MX Linux does a good job of taming Debian. Otherwise my next (and final) stop would be Devuan. I did try Slackware based distros, but then you are more on your own. Debian has many good (in every sense of the word) developers. But so has Microsoft. It's always management that destroys a product.

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Re: Big mistake, big, huge, started Windows

#16 Post by m_pav » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:37 pm

MX doesn't use systemd, we use sysvinit. Systemd is there if you want it as an option, but it's dormant because it's not loaded.
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Re: Big mistake, big, huge, started Windows

#17 Post by KBD » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:44 pm

The Win10 fall update on my laptop hooked to my printer took so long that I began to think it was stuck in a loop or had a virus before it finally finished updating. Fedora updates can take awhile, even Ubuntu if I go awhile without updating, but nothing compares to Windows 10.

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Re: Big mistake, big, huge, started Windows

#18 Post by PhantomTramp » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:58 pm

That Windows 10 1709 update is a terrible thing to install. If you don't have another updated Windows 10 PC on the network (that shares updates), it will kill your bandwidth. Sometimes it will get stuck around 88% and go all night and the next day before it will finish (if it finishes at all). When it does finish, sometimes you find that it will cause a certain antivirus to malfunction and never work again unless you uninstall the update. It will cause programs it does not like to disappear.

I am so over Microsoft at this point, don't even get me started on Office.

BTW, my blood pressure is now going back down as I realize that I am using my trusty MX as I type this. Also, the Cavs are ahead of those Tar Heels for the moment, heh, heh.

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Re: Big mistake, big, huge, started Windows

#19 Post by KBD » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:07 pm

PhantomTramp wrote:That Windows 10 1709 update is a terrible thing to install. If you don't have another updated Windows 10 PC on the network (that shares updates), it will kill your bandwidth. Sometimes it will get stuck around 88% and go all night and the next day before it will finish (if it finishes at all). When it does finish, sometimes you find that it will cause a certain antivirus to malfunction and never work again unless you uninstall the update. It will cause programs it does not like to disappear.

I am so over Microsoft at this point, don't even get me started on Office.

BTW, my blood pressure is now going back down as I realize that I am using my trusty MX as I type this. Also, the Cavs are ahead of those Tar Heels for the moment, heh, heh.

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That update killed some machines. And I'm not sure they could roll it back, or stay there even if they did. I'm lucky that I have several computers right now, the only reason I have Windows at all. I went for about 5 years Windows free and didn't really miss it. I know I would never want to solely rely upon Windows, I love having Linux machines around.

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Re: Big mistake, big, huge, started Windows

#20 Post by sunrat » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:35 am

I use Win10 on one PC to do multitrack recordings of concerts from a Digico SD10 mixing console. The UB MADI interface doesn't have Linux drivers.
One time I needed to download about 30MB of software so connected to phone via mobile hotspot. Win10 downloaded over 15GB of data on my mobile connection costing me $100 in excess data!
I since disabled updates and many other annoyances using a wonderful little program called Win10Privacy - https://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/
This Win10 does not normally go on the internet and is only used for occasional recording and games (still love Need For Speed Most Wanted :) )
It's multiboot with MX-17, siduction, and KX Studio. Thank ${deity} for Linux! ;)

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