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Anyone here interested in a Usenet group?

#1 Postby uncle mark » Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:17 pm

Several years ago the general Usenet group alt.os.linux.mepis was created and propagated across most of the major Usenet news servers. It got some traffic initially, but then faded into obscurity. It's been essentially dead for several years now. I personally post to it every once in a while just to make sure it's not totally vacant. So far it's still working fine on the NIN (Individual) news server.

It's there and available, and would be an appropriate group for MX discussion. Anyone interested, post away. I'll keep an eye out for you.
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Re: Anyone here interested in a Usenet group?

#2 Postby Jerry3904 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:29 am

Thoughts:

1) Might help if you provide some how-to (nothing in the Manual on this) about application, procedure etc.
2) Are you thinking of this for the KDE-users in particular?
3) What sort of questions would be appropriate (i.e., get an answer)?
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Re: Anyone here interested in a Usenet group?

#3 Postby namida12 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:08 am

I do remember using that newsgroup, and the Usenet that was where I lived instead of the www for a long time after I started using Linux.
yep Mepis included the name of our newsgroup. There was a second usegroup that was also used for Mepis, but i can not locate the name yet...

alt.os.linux.mepis

I found a lot of information and assistance in that newsgroup.
http://mepiscommunity.org/forum/viewtop ... =8&t=24854

I used Pan software for newsgroups, when I moved to Linux from windows. When my ISP (Cox Communications) dropped Usenet services, and I subscribed to Giganews, and started using the www, more. Finally I let my subscription drop and never bothered to locate a free Usenet service.

Thanks for the info...

I see that Giganews has "Pearl" service $5 a month, but with only 30 days retention anyone using a free newsgroup service with better retention?

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Re: Anyone here interested in a Usenet group?

#4 Postby chrispop99 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:19 am

anyone using a free newsgroup service?

Some ISP's (mine included) have free Usenet access. Alternatively, Eternal September still offers a free service:

http://www.eternal-september.org/

I've been a fairly active Usenetter for two decades, but it's popularity is at an all time low. It's sad, but pretty much inevitable, that it will fade to nothing in the not too distant future.

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Re: Anyone here interested in a Usenet group?

#5 Postby namida12 » Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:56 am

chrispop99 wrote:
anyone using a free newsgroup service?

Some ISP's (mine included) have free Usenet access. Alternatively, Eternal September still offers a free service:

http://www.eternal-september.org/

I've been a fairly active Usenetter for two decades, but it's popularity is at an all time low. It's sad, but pretty much inevitable, that it will fade to nothing in the not too distant future.

Chris


Yes, the Usenet was a wonderful learning playground for bicycle, skateboard, Linux and Virus information for many years. Everything, or every subject you could imagine had a newsgroup in 1999 when I first stumbled upon them. Sad to see them be forgotten.

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Re: Anyone here interested in a Usenet group?

#6 Postby uncle mark » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:30 pm

namida12 wrote:Yes, the Usenet was a wonderful learning playground for bicycle, skateboard, Linux and Virus information for many years. Everything, or every subject you could imagine had a newsgroup in 1999 when I first stumbled upon them. Sad to see them be forgotten.


I still live on Usenet. It was/is the original social media. I met my wife there, learned most of what little technical stuff I know there, got my original Linux chops there, and now have friends all over the world I met through it.

Thunderbird has Usenet handling built in. Pan is another Linux package for newsgroups (it's offered in the MX Package Installer).

Many years ago nearly all ISPs offered/hosted newsgroups as part of their service. Then the ISPs started looking at ways to cut costs, and newsgroups were their favorite target. Then Gov. Cuomo announced he would prosecute distributors of child porn, and since that was happening with newsgroups, all the offerings from the ISPs were dropped.

Now Usenet offerings can be had from several different sources. I use Individual.Net, which offers outstanding service for text-only newsgroups for 10 EU/year. Free offerings are available from eternal-september, aioe, and albasani. E-S seems to be the most popular and has the best service.

http://individual.net/
http://www.eternal-september.org/
http://albasani.net/index.html.en

(Seems like the aioe site is currently unavailable.)

Most people today will turn their noses up at Usenet. It's plain text, black and white, and totally unmoderated. It's the Wild West of the Internet. It's not for the faint of heart or the easily offended.
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Re: Anyone here interested in a Usenet group?

#7 Postby DBeckett » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:19 pm

 
Funny how things work. My first foray into Usenet (on Windows) was on a Jeep newsgroup. A post there one day led me to a security-oriented news server, which ultimately led me to Linux. And then of course to mepiscommunity.org.
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Re: Anyone here interested in a Usenet group?

#8 Postby skidoo » Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:32 pm

uncle mark wrote:I still live on Usenet. It was/is the original social media. I met my wife there
yah, I too met your wife there (hehe)

Sad to see them be forgotten
Forgotten? IMO, it's more like "fell victim to Googleborg's Embrace, Extend, Extinguish campaign".

In a future apocalyptic scenario, usenet and packet radio repeaters may be our salvation.
Personally, I'm not currently engaged in either of these, so... kudos to anyone keeping the torch.

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Re: Anyone here interested in a Usenet group?

#9 Postby uncle mark » Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:58 pm

skidoo wrote:
uncle mark wrote:I still live on Usenet. It was/is the original social media. I met my wife there
yah, I too met your wife there (hehe)

Yeah, she gets around...
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Re: Anyone here interested in a Usenet group?

#10 Postby antiX-Dave » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:30 pm

OK so for someone completely NEW and only heard it mentioned a few times in the past....... how?
Until now I had no idea that this was a completely separate thing. I have always understood it to be a special kind of forum... :P
Did not even know it used a completely different protocol.

I took the info that thunderbird is a client... so translated that to icedove is a client for my install
looked at the old thread linked by namida12
went settings -> "Add Other account" -> "News group account"
poked in my forum name
poked in "freenews.netfront.net" from the post from adrian saying that was working for him
Then it showed that server???? So clicked on it, followed by "manage newsgroup subscriptions"
Then waited for a index to build of all the topic availabilities????
Searched "alt.os.linux.mepis" as mentioned in this thread
Now shows a bunch of items like a regular email account....

So now what?
Is it safe to erase the items?
Will they erase on the server if I do erase them like my imap email accounts?
Will every message posted there be downloaded to my computer automatically?
Is there a way to view all the replies in sequence without opening an closing each message? Like how the forum puts it all on one page, or like my email account where I can press the "next message" button?
Is this channel then similar to a mailing list? Or what is different?
To make a new topic do you simply write an message with the "alt.os.linux.mepis" channel as the recipient?

I may deserving a newbie slap now.... :bagoverhead:
If I need to RTFM... where is a good manual? Will I need to find a book :lipsrsealed: ?

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