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Time Setings in MX17.1

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Jerry3904
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Re: Time Setings in MX17.1

#11 Post by Jerry3904 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:32 am

You mean like the MX Time Settings in the menu?
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Re: Time Setings in MX17.1

#12 Post by GTK48 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:02 am

Jerry3904 wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:32 am
You mean like the MX Time Settings in the menu?
I think he meant the default installation off of the Live Media.

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Re: Time Setings in MX17.1

#13 Post by sivaraj » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:40 am

I mean the live installer of media or ISO , the mx-installer .
Installing with july snapshot ISO has behavior change with time setting .

With March Mx17.1 iso installer , during the install ,
Configure clock section
Choosing "System clock uses LOCAL" and Selecting time zone
immediately will show current time and zone display in the panel .
It does not make any changes to hardware clock after post install .

But installing with July snapshot of Mx17.1 iso has different behavior.
It does not behave as it was .Further noticed that it changes system
hardware clock time to UTC after connecting to internet.
It looks like syncs the clock after connecting to internet and forcing system clock to UTC .

I feel original behavior is perfect .It is since Mepis days

Instead changing installer behavior, provide any flexibility with the MX Time Settings tool as a post install/boot application or tweak and user can tweak to their preference

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Re: Time Setings in MX17.1

#14 Post by dolphin_oracle » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:46 am

ah, that's not the installer. that's a side effect of how snapshots are built, one of the differences between the snapshots and the official iso (march was an official iso)

never really noticed it before, but we will take a look.


***at least I think so...research required, although I'm not seeing a difference in the clock settings script between the march iso and the snapshot***
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Re: Time Setings in MX17.1

#15 Post by sivaraj » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:16 am

I diagnosed installation of 1) MX-17.1_x64.iso (March) and 2) MX-17.1_x64 snapshot (my personnel snapshot after all updates)

With both installation I choose (x) System clock uses LOCAL and Timezone Asia/Jakarta

After installation, reboot and checked the terminal output with command timedatectl
I disabled the Lan so that it will not be network connected and do not syncs the time

1) MX-17.1_x64.iso (March)
sivaraj@sivaraj:~
$ timedatectl
Local time: Mon 2018-07-30 12:19:28 WIB
Universal time: Mon 2018-07-30 05:19:28 UTC
RTC time: Mon 2018-07-30 12:19:28
Time zone: Asia/Jakarta (WIB, +0700)
Network time on: yes
NTP synchronized: yes
RTC in local TZ: yes

Warning: The system is configured to read the RTC time in the local time zone.
This mode can not be fully supported. It will create various problems
with time zone changes and daylight saving time adjustments. The RTC
time is never updated, it relies on external facilities to maintain it.
If at all possible, use RTC in UTC by calling

2) MX-17.1_x64 snapshot

sivaraj@sivaraj:~
$ timedatectl
Local time: Mon 2018-07-30 19:36:40 WIB
Universal time: Mon 2018-07-30 12:36:40 UTC
RTC time: Mon 2018-07-30 12:36:41
Time zone: Asia/Jakarta (WIB, +0700)
Network time on: yes
NTP synchronized: yes
RTC in local TZ: no

There is a difference <RTC in local TZ: no >

Looks like installer did not handle the LOCAL selection properly with snapshot installation

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Re: Time Setings in MX17.1

#16 Post by dolphin_oracle » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:00 am

sivaraj wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:16 am
I diagnosed installation of 1) MX-17.1_x64.iso (March) and 2) MX-17.1_x64 snapshot (my personnel snapshot after all updates)

With both installation I choose (x) System clock uses LOCAL and Timezone Asia/Jakarta

After installation, reboot and checked the terminal output with command timedatectl
I disabled the Lan so that it will not be network connected and do not syncs the time

1) MX-17.1_x64.iso (March)
sivaraj@sivaraj:~
$ timedatectl
Local time: Mon 2018-07-30 12:19:28 WIB
Universal time: Mon 2018-07-30 05:19:28 UTC
RTC time: Mon 2018-07-30 12:19:28
Time zone: Asia/Jakarta (WIB, +0700)
Network time on: yes
NTP synchronized: yes
RTC in local TZ: yes

Warning: The system is configured to read the RTC time in the local time zone.
This mode can not be fully supported. It will create various problems
with time zone changes and daylight saving time adjustments. The RTC
time is never updated, it relies on external facilities to maintain it.
If at all possible, use RTC in UTC by calling

2) MX-17.1_x64 snapshot

sivaraj@sivaraj:~
$ timedatectl
Local time: Mon 2018-07-30 19:36:40 WIB
Universal time: Mon 2018-07-30 12:36:40 UTC
RTC time: Mon 2018-07-30 12:36:41
Time zone: Asia/Jakarta (WIB, +0700)
Network time on: yes
NTP synchronized: yes
RTC in local TZ: no

There is a difference <RTC in local TZ: no >

Looks like installer did not handle the LOCAL selection properly with snapshot installation

Thanks...I forgot we have moved to a new installer, although I didn't think we changed anything in the timezone settings...will investigate.


***in the mean time, you should be able to specify the "local" with the boot menus on the live media (either the F4 menu on legacy boots, or in the Customize... menu on the UEFI boot
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lenovo s21e & 100s - antiX-17, MX17(live-usb)
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

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