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Re: MX 17 Alpha3

#11 Postby polaca57 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:27 pm

eugen-b wrote:
BTW: The graphical design of Xfce on MX 17 is excellent!!


Yes! looking great. I just wish that MX themes lose that 3-D looking text on panel and Whisker menu ...

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Re: MX 17 Alpha3

#12 Postby asqwerth » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:47 pm

polaca57 wrote:
Yes! looking great. I just wish that MX themes lose that 3-D looking text on panel and Whisker menu ...


Could you post a screenshot so we can understand what you are referring to? Thanks.
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Re: MX 17 Alpha3

#13 Postby asqwerth » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:50 pm

There is now an Alpha4, by the way.
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Re: MX 17 Alpha3

#14 Postby skidoo » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:59 am

(mentioned during MX16.1 testing)
Note the blurred "LibreOffice" text when that menu item has focus (vs not) and the blur/graininess of the tooltip text.
The blur immediately disappeared when any other theme is selected (any, other than the 5 problematic themes I mentioned)
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v---- top results from: https://www.google.com/#q=greybird+theme+blury

https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=11122 Screenshot of how XFCE Greybird theme displays icons on the desktop

https://github.com/horst3180/arc-theme/issues/607 Xfce: Text under desktop icons misaligned with shadow

https://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=313216 Reload this Page [SOLVED] nice looking xfce xfce theme

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Re: MX 17 Alpha3

#15 Postby asqwerth » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:52 am

Thanks, skidoo. I don't remember this issue nor reading your post in the 16.1 testing thread.

To put all relevant info into this thread, I'm pasting the link to your previous post here:

viewtopic.php?p=415465#p415465

...What led me to immediately visit "appearance }} Fonts" during first session was the "blurry" (onMouseover) text labels of items displayed within left pane of WhiskerMenu. Whelp, turns out antialiasing didn't fix the blur. The blurriness is due to a quirk within a few of the pre-installed GTK themes (one of which happens to be the now "default" theme in RC).

The following themes are "quirked":
Greybird variants -mx, -thin, -thick
Bluebird variants -thick, -thin

Your call ~~ Tweak those theme css files, or don't. Change default away from using a "quirked" theme, or don't.
As is, IMO, the blurriness of bolded fonts represents an immediate distraction/aggravation.


I don't know how to tweak css files beyond maybe changing text colour, but from your comments above, it would appear that the non-tweaked original Greybird worked properly in MX16.1? Did you try it?

Is anyone able to check on this in MX17a3 or a4? Maybe install the unaltered Greybird from Debian Stretch if it's not already in the MX alpha.

What exactly is the difference in the tweaked Greybird theme that would cause this? Because IIRC, the tweak was just to make the borders thicker and more "grabbable" for resizing, and the panel colour.

I won't be able to test anything on my home computer for some time.

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Re: MX 17 Alpha3

#16 Postby SwampRabbit » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:03 am

I believe it is doing the same thing default in MX-17a4 like skidoo describes.
Screenshot_mx17a4.png


It sort of "fuzzes" up the text and puts a drop shadow which helps less.

Other than that, no gripes or issues using MX-17a4, except the default desktop wall paper now, the odd green/blue on is nice, but it kinda hurts the eyes a bit. I really like the night sky one with the giant MX logo though, very creative!
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Re: MX 17 Alpha3

#17 Postby asqwerth » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:10 am

Heehee. The green/purple one is coincidentally by skidoo. I really like its "neon Wimbledon" vibe. But yes, it's very bright.

D_O is just using a different default background on every alpha for fun. No decision has been made yet on final choice for default.

Could someone install the official Greybird to compare? Greybird-mx17 is the tweaked one.
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Re: MX 17 Alpha3

#18 Postby SwampRabbit » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:13 am

Well the green/purple background (sorry I am blue green colorblind a bit) (or I forgot what it looked like already since I closed that VM) by skidoo is a fine background... just not my thing. :happy:

I don't think I've seen a bad user contributed wallpaper yet, pretty amazing work being done by everyone.

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Re: MX 17 Alpha3

#19 Postby eugen-b » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:56 am

Here is the dmesg output with my WiFi connection problem: https://hastebin.com/ojobatihop.coffeescript
MX-14 on a Via Eden 1GHz CPU thin client, 3GB RAM, Via VX800 chipset, Via Chrome9 HC GPU, 32GB M.2 SSD;
btrfs with @ and @home subvolumes for MX-14;
added @antiX and @antiXhome subvolumes and copied antix 13.1 base into them, adjusting Grub from MX-14.

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Re: MX 17 Alpha3

#20 Postby richb » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:18 am

SwampRabbit wrote:I believe it is doing the same thing default in MX-17a4 like skidoo describes.
Screenshot_mx17a4.png

It sort of "fuzzes" up the text and puts a drop shadow which helps less.

Other than that, no gripes or issues using MX-17a4, except the default desktop wall paper now, the odd green/blue on is nice, but it kinda hurts the eyes a bit. I really like the night sky one with the giant MX logo though, very creative!

I see the slight "fuzzing" as well. I wonder if it has to do with the contrast of the light blue highlighting? I do not see the same with the xfce-4,6 theme that has a darker blue background. A guess on my part, not really understanding the science of visual acuity.
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