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Aspire One upgrade question

#1 Post by Gaer Boy » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:06 am

I intend to test the new MepisantiX beta on my AAO netbook. Mine is an early version, Model ZG5, with 512MB RAM and a 120GB HDD. The performance is limited by the processor, but I also find that memory use is rarely below 60%.

I'm planning on upgrading the RAM to 1GB (despite the note in the Acer Service Guide)

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System Memory
NOTE: It is not possible for end users to upgrade the Aspire one memory.
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 One DDRII SO-DIMM slots support 512MB to 1024MB system memory
Everything else indicates an upgrade is OK.

On this model, the upgrade will mean complete disassembly - removal of keyboard and motherboard from the front. So my question - while I'm stripped down that far, would there be any advantage in replacing the HDD with a 128GB SSD? How much of the slowness in loading applications and large files is down to the processor (running at 90-100%) and how much to the speed of the HDD (WD1200BEVS) which has the slowest I/O of the options used at 150 Mbits/s maximum.

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Re: Aspire One upgrade question

#2 Post by rokytnji » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:17 pm

I own a ZG5 but with 1gig of ram also. It has the Atom CPU.

On the SSD question. I installed a 64Gig 1.8 " zif SDD in My M&A Companion Netbook running AntiX 13.2.

It was the best upgrade decision I have ever made for that Netbook. Boot up to slim login screen in 14 seconds.
The netbook applications fly open when called on.

I have 3 of these and am posting on the same netbook with the same specs but with a platter 1.8 " zif 30gig Pata drive. It runs SolydX and boot times take 40 seconds to lightdn screen. Applications function fine but not as sanppy opening as the ssd netbook/

Both of these M&A Netbools I upgraded to 2gig of ram.

My 3rd one. I run Puppy Slack0 5.6 right now on with 512MB of ram. It runs OK with that. But. When this release MepisantiX goes testing. I'll slap in a 1gig stick I have and load it up and test it out. It also has the pata pkatter zif hard drive.

If I could find a steal on zif 1.8" SSD ide pata. At 50 cents a gig. I'd replace the other 2 hard drives also.
So if you can afford the SSD upgrade. Go for it. You will notice a BIG difference in speed from that 120 gig platter.

All this rambling is to say these 3 netbooks I have internally are comparable hardware wise to my ZG5. They are easier to work on though than the Acer when it comes to upgrades.

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 inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: biker Kernel: 3.11-2-486 i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.8.2) 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2 (Gtk 2.24.18) Distro: SolydXK 1 testing
Machine:   System: manda product: Intel powered classmate PC version: Gen 1.5L
           Mobo: N/A model: N/A Bios: American Megatrends version: CM94515A.86A.0024.2008.0715.1716 date: 07/15/2008
CPU:       Single core Intel Core CPU N270 (-UP-) cache: 512 KB flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3191.92 clocked at 1600.00 MHz 
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0 
           X.Org: 1.14.5 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1024x600@53.3hz 
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 9.2.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.11-2-486
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller 
           driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: ec00 bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 30.0GB (51.3% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_HS030GB size: 30.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 6.7G used: 5.8G (92%) fs: ext3 ID: /home size: 20G used: 8.7G (48%) fs: ext3 
           ID: swap-1 size: 1.58GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 62.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 145 Uptime: 1:56 Memory: 556.5/2015.9MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.2 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.2.45) inxi: 1.9.17 
EditL after :bagoverhead: reading your sig and seeing ssd in your hardware. I guess my post is moot.
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Re: Aspire One upgrade question

#3 Post by lucky9 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:43 pm

I'm sure glad my Acer Aspire One D-250 has an easy access cover over the (250 GB) HDD. I'd hate to think of these old fingers having to disassemble the unit to get a HDD changed.

I agree that an SSD is the best upgrade you can make. If money were tight I might shade things towards the Memory a little. Depends on usage. My usage would make the SSD the right choice if money was not an issue.
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Re: Aspire One upgrade question

#4 Post by richb » Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:49 pm

lucky9 wrote:I'm sure glad my Acer Aspire One D-250 has an easy access cover over the (250 GB) HDD. I'd hate to think of these old fingers having to disassemble the unit to get a HDD changed.
I hear you. I have a nice 250 GB SSD in an older laptop that I would like to get in my Acer V5, as well as more ram. No access doors. So I am delaying the frustrating activity of prying the balsted thing open.
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Re: Aspire One upgrade question

#5 Post by Gaer Boy » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:26 pm

Thanks, both. Financially, there's no contest - 1GB memory is about £13 (less than a pub lunch), 128GB SATA SSD starts at £65. The memory upgrade is a no-brainer (my fingers can still hold small screws, Rich).

I'll have to decide whether it's worth spending £65 on an old machine that I only use in earnest about 3 times a year. A little more would buy a basic tablet, but I'd lose the keyboard.

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Re: Aspire One upgrade question

#6 Post by rokytnji » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:27 pm

128GB SATA SSD starts at £65
Having been a moderator at eeepc forums till I sold mine and left. I saw a lot of users buy sata drives only to find out they did not work on their eeepcs because the bios expected a ide drive.
You might instead look for a pata 1.8" SSD zif drive.
If Bios does not accept sata and it has the 40 wire zif ribbon cable. Your sata purchase is gonna go for naught.

Here is what i mean.

http://tnkgrl.com/2008/08/16/modding-th ... ard-drive/

I would not order the drive till you disassemble and see if it uses the ribbon cable or sata connectors.

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It looks like the eeepc forum I modded at is not around anymore. Too bad. It had a lot of good info on
modding netbooks. Just the Blog and Wiki seems to exist anymore.

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Re: Aspire One upgrade question

#7 Post by Gaer Boy » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:57 am

rokytnji wrote:Having been a moderator at eeepc forums till I sold mine and left. I saw a lot of users buy sata drives only to find out they did not work on their eeepcs because the bios expected a ide drive.
You might instead look for a pata 1.8" SSD zif drive.
If Bios does not accept sata and it has the 40 wire zif ribbon cable. Your sata purchase is gonna go for naught.
The eeepc & the AAO have a lot of differences. The AAO SSD version uses a pata interface but the HDD version is SATA. The SSD is basically above the m/board, the HDD is below. I'm possibly going to replace the HDD with a SATA SSD. Either of these plug directly into the socket on the m/board - no cables are used. Service Guide extract & pic:
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Re: Aspire One upgrade question

#8 Post by Danum » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:17 am

richb wrote:
lucky9 wrote:I'm sure glad my Acer Aspire One D-250 has an easy access cover over the (250 GB) HDD. I'd hate to think of these old fingers having to disassemble the unit to get a HDD changed.
I hear you. I have a nice 250 GB SSD in an older laptop that I would like to get in my Acer V5, as well as more ram. No access doors. So I am delaying the frustrating activity of prying the balsted thing open.
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Re: Aspire One upgrade question

#9 Post by richb » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:25 am

Yes, I saw that some time ago John. That is what I mean by prying the thing open. Looks easy, and it may be, but an easy open access door would be much nicer.
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