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newbie has no luck with fallback kernel

#1 Post by dumol'cus » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:51 pm

Hello, I hope someone can assist. I'm using MX-15
I wish to use the Fallback Debian 3.16 64bit linux kernel that is listed in the MX Package Installer.
I've taken the steps of selecting the box and also the option for 'yes -for apt-get install'.
It has a window that shows the download. Afterward, log out with save options wizards and restart.
However, the option for selecting the kernel doesn't appear in the Main Boot Menu.
I don't want to bore anyone with the usual laundry list of ineffective things I've read, searched under or tried over the last 2 evenings:
the typical -wash, rinse, repeat -before finally giving in and coming here, head held low to plead for someone to hold my hand and lead me to what step or path I'm missing.
-Thanks in advance for your time.

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Re: newbie has no luck with fallback kernel

#2 Post by kmathern » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:58 pm

I think there should be a selection for the 3.16 kernel you installed in grub's 'Advanced options for MX GNU/Linux' submenu.

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Re: newbie has no luck with fallback kernel

#3 Post by Stevo » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:04 pm

If it doesn't appear, and MX is managing GRUB, try running "update-grub" in a terminal as root. Watch the output to see if it found the new kernel.

If some other distro is managing GRUB, you'll have to update GRUB from it, or have MX install GRUB from the boot repair. Note that much recent hardware is going to have trouble with a 3.16 kernel.

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#4 Post by dumol'cus » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:32 pm

@kmathern -thanks, I'll have to search for that.
The fallback kernel is listed as installed in Synaptic.
@ Steveo -thanks: Out of habit, I'd used sudo update-grub, got nothing in reply.
Did as you suggested -typed the command w/o sudo and it printed:
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of 'overlay'.
Thank you both for your time.

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Re: newbie has no luck with fallback kernel

#5 Post by dolphin_oracle » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:31 pm

are you running off the live-usb? the usual process doesn't work on the live-usb. the kernel is installed, but its not in use.
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
lenovo ThinkPad T530 - MX-17
lenovo s21e & 100s - antiX-17, MX17(live-usb)
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

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#6 Post by Stevo » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:47 pm

Yes, "sudo update-grub" not having any output at all is a sign of something fishy going on.

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#7 Post by dumol'cus » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:48 pm

Hi dolphin oracle,
I am using MK-15 on a USB -having set up root and home am booting w/ root persistence and have also tried all others except 'static]
I know the whatever the reason, it is something I'm not aware of.
-thanks for your input.
P.S. -I've been following your youtube vid's -good work; hope you plan to continue.
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@ Stevo: entered it again, after reading your post and now the command [sudo update-grub] also prints the same message:
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of 'overlay'

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Re: newbie has no luck with fallback kernel

#8 Post by dolphin_oracle » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:51 pm

dumol'cus wrote:Hi dolphin oracle,
I am using MK-15 on a USB -having set up root and home am booting w/ root persistence and have also tried all others except 'static]
I know the whatever the reason, it is something I'm not aware of.
-thanks for your input.
P.S. -I've been following your youtube vid's -good work; hope you plan to continue.
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@ Stevo: entered it again, after reading your post and now the command [sudo update-grub] also prints the same message:
/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of 'overlay'

search the repo for a tool called live-kernel-updater. It will help you change kernels on the liveUSB. Personally I've never done it with my live sticks, but there have been other uses who have.

there is a mx-wiki entry on it.

https://mxlinux.org/wiki/help-files/hel ... el-updater

and thanks for the kind words about the videos. They will continue, both for mx and antiX, once mx-16 development wraps up. That eats a lot of time!
http://www.youtube.com/runwiththedolphin
lenovo ThinkPad T530 - MX-17
lenovo s21e & 100s - antiX-17, MX17(live-usb)
FYI: mx "test" repo is not the same thing as debian testing repo.

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Re: newbie has no luck with fallback kernel

#9 Post by dumol'cus » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:23 pm

@dolphin oracle,
Ah-ha! -that wiki you suggest maybe just the path I've been searching for!
Will get the live-kernel-updater and have a go w/ it.
I'll post back here the results, -probably tomorrow. [school's out -kid is home]

[about the youtube taking a lot of time -I'd bet it doesn't take you as much time now...,
-as it did when you set out to create the first few!]

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