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what I learned from my liveUSB problems: don't go without an optical drive

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what I learned from my liveUSB problems: don't go without an optical drive

#1 Postby lonesomepoint » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:39 am

Pursuant to viewtopic.php?f=94&t=40117&sid=1816330cf8543eb4ba34159a845f1cfd#p387864 .

My various problems running a MX liveUSB validate to me what I started figuring out some time ago: because of the greater ease, simplicity and reliability of live optical media, a Linux user should consider an optical drive essential equipment and never be without one, which means (if possible) avoiding laptops that are too small to have an optical drive. I'm unemployed at the moment and stuck with a such a laptop (Thinkpad X201i), but as soon as I can spend money freely again, I'll buy either a full-size laptop with a drive bay or an external optical drive, or go back to a desktop. (Although a USB optical drive is not my first choice, because my laptops' USB drives' fail appallingly often.)
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Re: what I learned fro my liveUSB problems: don't go without an optical drive

#2 Postby Jerry3904 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:10 am

You can buy a USB drive for under USD 20; there are a bunch of them on Amazon, for instance. That's what I use for my Acer netbooks when necessary.
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Re: what I learned fro my liveUSB problems: don't go without an optical drive

#3 Postby lonesomepoint » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:08 pm

Rereading my post, I see it was unclear due to using the wrong word; I meant to say my USB ports fail, not drives. I buy my laptops in good shape but used, and most of the laptops work well, except that on almost all of them, at least one USB port fails eventually. (It goes without saying that buying computers used is a risk, but my first used laptop lasted a year and a half, and it met my needs so fully that I didn't need to go back to a desktop; so I bought another when it died, and it became a habit. I'm starting to question my habit, but it's another issue.) I hesitate to buy an optical drive that plugs into a part I've started to distrust. I could buy one anyway and plug it into a USB port that isn't broken; but they've failed often enough that I'm now paranoid about every USB port going bad when I need it.

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Re: what I learned from my liveUSB problems: don't go without an optical drive

#4 Postby PhilH » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:10 pm

If you need more than one USB port, and you only have one working port available, a 4-port hub could be an option. Assuming you only need USB 2.0 you can get one on (insert favorite online store here) for $10 that's USB 3.0 compatible and includes the connecting cable, power supply, and cute lighted switches.

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Re: what I learned from my liveUSB problems: don't go without an optical drive

#5 Postby lucky9 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:12 pm

A USB HUB would lessen the plug/unplugging cycle. Depends on usage I suppose. If I use my NetBook my HUB is the first thing that I plug in. Second is Power. The HUB is where anything else is attached.
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Re: what I learned from my liveUSB problems: don't go without an optical drive

#6 Postby lonesomepoint » Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:54 am

Well, I broke down and bought a USB optical drive, and was immediately glad I did. Making and using live a liveCD is so much easier than a liveUSB that I would say it easily outweighs the greater versatility of a liveUSB. Given the choice between learning dd and going back to a process I already know how to handle...

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Re: what I learned from my liveUSB problems: don't go without an optical drive

#7 Postby Jerry3904 » Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:18 pm

Making and using live a liveCD is so much easier than a liveUSB
Since that appears to be true for you in particular, such a purchase seems like a no-brainer.
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Re: what I learned from my liveUSB problems: don't go without an optical drive

#8 Postby lonesomepoint » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:31 pm

Jerry3904 wrote:Since that appears to be true for you in particular, such a purchase seems like a no-brainer.


With an attitude like yours, so is trying to post less on this forum.

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#9 Postby Eadwine Rose » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:36 pm

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Re: what I learned from my liveUSB problems: don't go without an optical drive

#10 Postby Jerry3904 » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:37 pm

Huh?
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