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Site describing MX as a 'product'?

#1 Post by qwertyblahblah » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:56 am

I've meant to mention this for a while now. The description of MX as a 'product' on the main site was jarring when I first saw it, but it's more than that, the word is wrong and a big deal. Distros of GNU/Linux are not commercial products, they're community 'projects'. A product implies something being sold, or at least a tangible thing, a good to be exchanged. Isn't this true? Can you guys change that one word?
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Re: Site describing MX as a 'product'?

#2 Post by richb » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:20 am

Product
noun

a thing produced by labor.
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Re: Site describing MX as a 'product'?

#3 Post by Jerry3904 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:24 am

the word is wrong and a big deal...can you guys change that one word?
Nothing anywhere on the Home page suggests a commercial interest, so it's definitely not a big deal to most of the universe. A product is by definition something produced.
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Re: Site describing MX as a 'product'?

#4 Post by qwertyblahblah » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:32 am

richb wrote:Product
noun

a thing produced by labor.
That's exactly why GNU/Linux distros aren't products. A distro as I said is not a tangible finished thing, or made at a cost and with a value to be exchanged for. Even if you mean it in the looser, immaterial and at least possibly non-commercial sense, using it implies that the focus of MX is on an 'end output', which isn't fair or right. The word 'project' on the other hand gets at the purpose of a Linux distro. That it's a result of and will continue to evolve through collaborative development efforts. And indeed the word project better covers what's under that dropdown category on the front page of the site.

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Re: Site describing MX as a 'product'?

#5 Post by richb » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:46 am

I have no objection to project and will not object if changed. But it is not something I have any passion for.
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Re: Site describing MX as a 'product'?

#6 Post by malspa » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:56 am

I can see the OP's point, kinda -- the word "Products" could be changed to something else there. I looked at a few other distros' main pages (antiX's, for example), just for comparison. I don't know if it's a big deal, though -- it isn't something that has ever bothered me. :happy:

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Re: Site describing MX as a 'product'?

#7 Post by Paul.. » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:58 am

qwertyblahblah wrote:That's exactly why GNU/Linux distros aren't products. A distro as I said is not a tangible finished thing, or made at a cost and with a value to be exchanged for. Even if you mean it in the looser, immaterial and at least possibly non-commercial sense, using it implies that the focus of MX is on an 'end output', which isn't fair or right. The word 'project' on the other hand gets at the purpose of a Linux distro. That it's a result of and will continue to evolve through collaborative development efforts. And indeed the word project better covers what's under that dropdown category on the front page of the site.
Can you tell us why this is such a hot button for you?

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Re: Site describing MX as a 'product'?

#8 Post by qwertyblahblah » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:25 am

Paul.. wrote:
qwertyblahblah wrote:That's exactly why GNU/Linux distros aren't products. A distro as I said is not a tangible finished thing, or made at a cost and with a value to be exchanged for. Even if you mean it in the looser, immaterial and at least possibly non-commercial sense, using it implies that the focus of MX is on an 'end output', which isn't fair or right. The word 'project' on the other hand gets at the purpose of a Linux distro. That it's a result of and will continue to evolve through collaborative development efforts. And indeed the word project better covers what's under that dropdown category on the front page of the site.
Can you tell us why this is such a hot button for you?
I know it's it's just one instance of one word, it's not so paramount, I guess it's my left-wing sensibilities that make it annoying for me. I use Linux because it's not designed to be bought and sold. The word 'product' suggests a distro at least could be. I know MX isn't, so that's the completely wrong impression to give. A Linux distro is a project rather than just a product because it is free and open source.

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Re: Site describing MX as a 'product'?

#9 Post by Jerry3904 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:13 am

,quote]
I know it's it's just one instance of one word[/quote]...and in a menu, never in any text on the site. A MX Linux is indeed a project, a status that IMO is not about to be impugned by a single top menu entry.
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Re: Site describing MX as a 'product'?

#10 Post by clicktician » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:34 am

I think software is a product regardless of how it's procured or acquired. I don't think price is relevant. Many mistakenly believe that open source or freeware has no cost. I can assure them that the costs are very real, and very high. Whether or not the consumer is charged for these costs doesn't change anything about the software.
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