Systemd free MX19?

[NickStone]

Is it posible for the next version of MX to be systemd free like Antix?

[mxer]

Possible - yes - will it be - probably not - it is one of the differences between the distros.

[manyroads]

What I gathered from another extensive thread on the topic here is that systemd / sysVinit are under discussion. Shim's continuation on debian is problematic, going forward. So, things are in flux.

My personal hope is that we get to keep both options here: a clean MX with sysVinit and one with systemd. If the decision is to make MX systemd based, I hope antiX provides an MX DE as an easily installed option on it. I'm personally perfectly happy moving to MX functionality on the antiX-base.

As a software geek of some nearly 50 years, I think a multi-DE (with a MX DE option added) on sysVinit antiX might be the best (cleanest) decision from a software support perspective. But don't trust my opinion (my opinions are almost always worth every penny you pay for them...)

[gosia]

My big wish: Please no MX only with systemd. systemd-based Distros there are already enough. The possibility to choose when booting is a good compromise. If this becomes too difficult, then it is better to do without systemd.

[GuiGuy]

My big wish: Please no MX only with systemd. systemd-based Distros there are already enough. The possibility to choose when booting is a good compromise. If this becomes too difficult, then it is better to do without systemd.

+100

[uncle mark]

I guess I understand at a shallow level the technical/philosophical/political objections to systemd, but as an unsophisticated run-of-the-mill user, I don't see what all the fuss is about. I long ago gave up on tilting at windmills and worrying over unknown unknowns, and today just want my machines to do what I want them to do, now and in the long run. My fear is that if MX remains a systemd holdout, eventually the rest of Linuxdom will move on and MX will become a marginalized niche distro with a dwindling user base and eventually dwindling contingent of developers.

[Jerry3904]

Certainly worth thinking about.

[rs55]

Maybe MX goes systemd and AntiX stays systemd-free. That would be one way to evolve. Make AntiX closer to MX in functionality ( xfce, MX Tools etc) - but systemd-free ( and may I suggest make pulseaudio optional).
Because - at the moment I am struggling to see the reason for AntiX - other than being the mothership that launched MX.

[skidoo]

the rest of Linuxdom will move on and

it's well under way.
They've skipped past "the year of the linux desktop" ~~ the focus, the agenda, across the past several years has been toward "the decade of converting 'desktop linux' into WindowsNT Workstation"

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[GuiGuy]

I see that BitJam is not willing to tackle this problem, but could anybody else do it?