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Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:44 am
by richb
The closest thing we have is the Forum Rules. As Eadwine said we have an active group of moderators and full discussions when threads go a bit awry. A link to the Rules is in my signature block.

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:11 am
by timkb4cq
manyroads wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:43 am Curious that so many focus on the Forums when neither set of rules has anything to do with the forums but rather with communication of issues and organizational conduct regarding the OS and how items are dealt with between users (aka. buyers) and problems which may arise.
Not so curious since most of the communication and organizational conduct around MX is conducted via the Forum.
Yes, there are restricted developer & moderator sections of the forum, but those areas hold to the same rules as the public areas.

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:13 am
by manyroads
@richb I agree and I, also feel the need to add, I truly enjoy and value this community.

Just yesterday I was doing some research here and on the Debian site. On the Debian site, their principles are accessible on their landing page and numerous other prominent locations.
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Finding those, I went hunting for similar clear statements already knowing they apply on the MX sites (main & forum). I was unable to find anything beyond what you mentioned. My thought was, and remains, new visitors benefit when they are able to read and understand the principles and values which guide a group they are considering joining.

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:20 am
by Eadwine Rose
The forum rules are right up there in the welcome section.

People just do not read them.


You're the first that actually actively asked!

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:32 am
by asqwerth
Sorry, but I didn't sign up for any Debian guidelines or rules of conduct when I joined the forum in 2007. I joined the Mepis-Lovers, and then the MX, Forum, not the Debian organisation. I agreed to follow the Forum rules.

Your assumption in your OP that this forum appeared to "value and follow" the Debian rules/guidelines was not correct. I had no idea what those rules were.

It may be possible that currently you see the civil atmosphere and behaviour here as resembling the debian rules and guidelines, but there is no guarantee the debian ones won't change. From what happened during the whole "should Debian adopt systemd as default or not" hooha, politics are a part of that organisation. Who knows what will happen in the future, what changes in rules might be effected.

Let's just focus on our own forum. I also belong to some other non-linux forums, who are just as civil without the need for detailed code/guidelines, save for some very standard terms you normally see when you register and sign up for forums. If I like a forum, I stay and maybe contribute. If I don't agree with how they do things, I either don't visit again or just lurk.

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:43 am
by manyroads
@asqwerth as I noted above, I was not really referring to the forums... but rather the MX Linux OS and its support.

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:44 pm
by nik.gnomic
of course there are rules, this is not 'nam dude!

i have read the rules - maybe the best brevity I have seen for a distribution forum