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Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:14 pm
by manyroads
I notice on these forums that the MX Linux community appears to value and follow both the Debian Social Contract (https://www.debian.org/social_contract) as well as the Debian Code of Conduct (https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct).

It is probably just me, but I think having both prominently stated/ presented on the MXlinux.org site as well as here would be both useful and distinctive.

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:46 pm
by Old Giza
That's nice. But I personally do not wish to be bound by another organization's rules, no matter what the content. Especially as I have no say in their content, present or future.

I'd rather put my trust in the good sense and experience of the moderators and admins of the forum and project.

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:56 pm
by Gordon Cooper
Old Giza wrote: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:46 pm That's nice. But I personally do not wish to be bound by another organization's rules, no matter what the content. Especially as I have no say in their content, present or future.

I'd rather put my trust in the good sense and experience of the moderators and admins of the forum and project.
+1

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:51 pm
by georgeogoodman
I agree, @manyroads.

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:34 am
by j2mcgreg
Old Giza wrote: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:46 pm That's nice. But I personally do not wish to be bound by another organization's rules, no matter what the content. Especially as I have no say in their content, present or future.

I'd rather put my trust in the good sense and experience of the moderators and admins of the forum and project.
+2

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:34 am
by asqwerth
Never read those documents. Don't intend to.

This forum has its own way of handling things.

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:28 am
by Artim
Isn't it kinda sad that they even need a code of conduct? It ought to be that only small kids need to be told how to behave. Now we have to remind even grownups about manners and common courtesy? Especially ones who volunteer to help others and contribute to an awesome project. I dunno, it just seems like it shouldn't be necessary.

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:00 am
by Eadwine Rose
We handle things over here according to our own set of rules. Common decency and "just be nice!" are at the base of those rules.


Whenever you see something you don't approve of, send us a PM or hit the report button, that way we can take a looksee.

Trust me when I say: if push comes to shove, we still do not take banning lightly. It's that you guys can't see the mod section, but take my word on it that talking about someone, and WITH someone who disrupts the forum (that is done via pm), who eventually does get banned takes pages and pages and pages of deliberation in the team.

I could almost jokingly say that bringing out a new MX release takes less time! :laugh:

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:38 am
by rasat
Arch Linux code of conduct: "The Code of Conduct here has been developed over a number of years and reflects the community's ethos of a functional support system with a high signal-to-noise ratio and an explicit expectation of self-sufficiency and willingness to learn".
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Code_of_conduct

Re: Debian Social Contract & Code of Conduct

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:43 am
by manyroads
Curious that so many focus on the Forums when neither set of rules has anything to do with the forums but rather with communication of issues and organizational conduct regarding the OS and how items are dealt with between users (aka. buyers) and problems which may arise.

Ethics and transparency are simply what Eadwine stated....

"We handle things over here according to our own set of rules. Common decency and "just be nice!" are at the base of those rules." The only question I ask via this thread is where would I see view what those "own set of rules" are for MX Linux (not just the Forums).

Adherence by MX to these (Debian Guides/ Contracts) seems obvious in the behavior of members on the forums but is not readily viewable (findable by me, anyway) on the website. It is worth noting that when Debian is used it carries with it the obligation to be used in accordance with both see: The Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG). So in fact, it is in force here (legally and in accordance with FSF as has been adopted by the free software community as the basis of the Open Source Definition (https://opensource.org/docs/osd)

Personally (and I know it's just me) I think transparency as well as a straightforward statement of operating principles is honest, truthful and helpful. But as I say, that's just me.