Convince me to install MX over Ubuntu

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Re: Convince me to install MX over Ubuntu

#11 Post by fehlix »

oops wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:03 am Hello,
@ekeimaja .As already said. You invert the question skillfully, you do not have to be convinced because you are free of your choices (like into Democracies) and free of charge (not like into democracies ;-)). This choice belongs to you alone. So trying and seeing by yourself is the best way to do, I think.
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Re: Convince me to install MX over Ubuntu

#12 Post by Artim »

And best of all,

You get a full refund of your purchase price if not completely satisfied!

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Re: Convince me to install MX over Ubuntu

#13 Post by Stevo »

I wonder if it's that Swedish repo causing problems again...I'm sure that's what Jerry was driving at.

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Re: Convince me to install MX over Ubuntu

#14 Post by Jerry3904 »

Yup
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Re: Convince me to install MX over Ubuntu

#15 Post by turtlebay777 »

Artim wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:48 pm And best of all,

You get a full refund of your purchase price if not completely satisfied!
Lol!


I have recently been doing a longer term test on MX and despite years of using Mint I really love and prefer MX now.
Not knocking Mint, there's nothing wrong with it, but maybe I've matured and am ready for a new distro.
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Re: Convince me to install MX over Ubuntu

#16 Post by ekeimaja »

Now I installed MX to my small test HDD and all basic things worked, I managed to install Nvidia drivers without problems also. Only problem I have, is with Conky. When booting, conky appears to middle of my second screen, even though I want it to appear top right on my main screen.

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To fix this I just toggle Conky, and then it goes to main screen as I want. Sometimes it starts twice (this happens also on my Asus EEE) but toggling fixes it.

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And yes, I am using NL repo, cause with Swedish repo I get only "could not connect" errors.
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Re: Convince me to install MX over Ubuntu

#17 Post by fehlix »

ekeimaja wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:23 pm ...
Only problem I have, is with Conky. When booting, conky appears to middle of my second screen, even though I want it to appear top right on my main screen.
Sometimes it starts twice (this happens also on my Asus EEE) but toggling fixes it.
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You might add a further delay within the autostart of conky,
at least it helped me to avoid the too early conky starts before the desktop is ready.
Either here:
Menu -> Settings -> Session and Startup -> Application Autostart -> Edit Conky
and replace

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sh .conky/conky-startup.sh
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sh -c 'sleep 10; exec ~/.conky/conky-startup.sh'
Or just with an one-liner from terminal commandn line

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sed -iE "s:^Exec=.*:Exec=sh -c 'sleep 10; exec ~/.conky/conky-startup.sh':"  ~/.config/autostart/conky.desktop
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Re: Convince me to install MX over Ubuntu

#18 Post by fehlix »

As I just check my conky delay I found there is a nice little conky-start-"trap",
which seems to have been introduced recently:
The conky start script has no executable bit set.
This might be considered as to be rather unusal for a script, which is meant to be executed:

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fehlix@mx:~/Desktop
$ ls -l /home/fehlix/.conky/conky-startup.sh
-rw-r--r-- 1 fehlix fehlix 119 Jun 16 21:52 /home/fehlix/.conky/conky-startup.sh
But how does it start anyway if it is not set executable:
Well, the autostarter just does not excute it. The starting shell is just "sourcing in" the script.
The autstarter calls it such:

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sh .conky/conky-startup.sh
instead of the "usual way" to start a script

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sh -c .conky/conky-startup.sh
This little "trap" makes adding my above sleep-delay not excuted.
So a quick fix to introduce the delay looks like:

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sh -c ' sleep 10; exec sh ~/.conky/conky-startup.sh'
or the one-liner as such:

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sed -iE "s:^Exec=.*:Exec=sh -c 'sleep 10; exec sh ~/.conky/conky-startup.sh':"  ~/.config/autostart/conky.desktop
Just wonder whether we can have the executable bit back, to at least avoid this little potential shell-"trap".
EDIT: -- which implies the #-bang line at the beginning of the script: #!/bin/sh
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Re: Convince me to install MX over Ubuntu

#19 Post by turtlebay777 »

Just a personal opinion here, but Conky is the only thing I dislike about MX, and am looking for any way to remove it completely from my computer.

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Re: Convince me to install MX over Ubuntu

#20 Post by Richard »

Perhaps a better choice of words, such as, "Please help me to install MX Linux'.
I quit trying to convince people to use Linux or MX in particular quite a while back.

In order to help you, we need some information, otherwise, we need a working crystal ball.
1. Post your hardware info.
. . In a terminal execute the following:

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inxi -Fxzdlop
then highlight and do a Ctrl-C to copy the output.
2. In the forum, at the bottom of the editor panel, click on "Full Editor & Preview"
3. Click on the symbol, </>, then paste the output of inxi between the code boxes.
4. Wait till some one comes along with some words of wisdom.
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