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Laptop conversion to MX - Vista problem [SOLVED]

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Re: Laptop conversion to MX - Vista problem

#11 Postby Gordon Cooper » Thu May 18, 2017 10:27 pm

Did the same as Chris suggests on a Vista laptop for a family member. Fitted a new SSD with MX-16 installed. In this case was also having problems with the Vista's optical drive, so plugged the SSD into the spare SATA slot on my desktop, loaded MX and transferred files from the laptop, then moved SSD to the laptop. All worked
properly so fixed the optical drive as second part of the job.
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Re: Laptop conversion to MX - Vista problem

#12 Postby Gaer Boy » Fri May 19, 2017 4:50 am

@skidoo - Thanks for the new link - that looks a better way forward. That article didn't show up in my searches but it gives me hope that I can use GParted, which I much prefer to any Windows tool I've used, except PerfectDisk. I will now have to check if my friend has her Vista installation disc (chances about 50% I suspect).

I still see no need to spend ages cleaning the disk to save 20GB or so - I just need to remove the block. I only need about half the available space for MX-16 - her Vista installation is less than 80GB accumulated over 8 years. It includes loads of redundant programs.

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Re: Laptop conversion to MX - Vista problem

#13 Postby skidoo » Fri May 19, 2017 6:32 pm

"I still see no need to spend ages cleaning the disk to save 20GB or so - I just need to remove the block."
I guess I introduced confusion by mentioning the size/amount. I did so because the OP mentioned "making space for MX."
The point was: the suspected "blockage" is presence of unmovable SystemRestore data residing at the tail-end of the partition.

"I will now have to check if my friend has her Vista installation disc"

What am I missing? I wouldn't expect an installation disk would be needed.
Maybe that was instructed in the article (in case you need to fix BCD)?

Once the blockage attributable to unmovable SystemRestore data residing at the tail-end of the partition is eliminated,
either msDiskManager or gparted (your choice) should be able to accomplish the resize.

Gparted. Drag right-hand side of the Vista partition to make it smaller. Click apply.
The operation doesn't alter the partition UUID, does it? (Maybe it DOES. I don't recall, that's why I'm asking.)
So, after making the partition for MX, and installing... and update-grub, doesn't Vista wind up being chainloaded, with BCD none-the-wiser?

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Re: Laptop conversion to MX - Vista problem

#14 Postby Richard » Fri May 19, 2017 10:42 pm

Gparted. Drag right-hand side of the Vista partition to make it smaller. Click apply.
The operation doesn't alter the partition UUID, does it? (Maybe it DOES. I don't recall, that's why I'm asking.)
Not in my experience. I've never had to correct fstab after resizing a WinXP partition.
Imagine that other Wins are the same.
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Re: Laptop conversion to MX - Vista problem

#15 Postby Gaer Boy » Mon May 22, 2017 6:03 am

skidoo wrote:"I will now have to check if my friend has her Vista installation disc"

What am I missing? I wouldn't expect an installation disk would be needed.
Maybe that was instructed in the article (in case you need to fix BCD)?


Sorry for the silence - been away for the weekend. The blocking file at the end of the partition is the MFT, so using GParted loses the partition. The repair option on the installation disk rectifies this - at least, I hope it will when I go down that road. Any way, if I find that it doesn't, she will have MX-16 instead of Vista.

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Re: Laptop conversion to MX - Vista problem

#16 Postby Gaer Boy » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:48 pm

To wrap this up, the Vista installation disc couldn't be found, so I downloaded the demo version of PerfectDisk 14. This was able to move the system files at the end of the disk, freeing up 115GB for MX-16. She's now nervously dual-booting and phoning me for help most days! Time will sort things out.

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